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[Ricky Jackson]

Not sure the exact date or place, but the Bruno vs Steele match from the Bruno collection added today is NOT from the 8/9/75 MSG card as listed. It's clearly from Bruno's first reign based on the belt he wears to the ring. I'm guessing around the same time as the cage vs Steele that was added when Steele passed away, so about 1970. Perhaps the June 27, 1970 card at the Philadelphia Arena a month before the cage

[Matt D]

Not sure the exact date or place, but the Bruno vs Steele match from the Bruno collection added today is NOT from the 8/9/75 MSG card as listed. It's clearly from Bruno's first reign based on the belt he wears to the ring. I'm guessing around the same time as the cage vs Steele that was added when Steele passed away, so about 1970. Perhaps the June 27, 1970 card at the Philadelphia Arena a month before the cage

Did anything interest get posted?

[Ricky Jackson]

If you haven't seen many of Bruno's greatest matches, this is a really good playlist. The most interesting match for those that have seen a lot of Bruno is a March 1977 MSG bout vs Patera with Monsoon as ref that hasn't been widely available before

[Ricky Jackson]

Not sure the exact date or place, but the Bruno vs Steele match from the Bruno collection added today is NOT from the 8/9/75 MSG card as listed. It's clearly from Bruno's first reign based on the belt he wears to the ring. I'm guessing around the same time as the cage vs Steele that was added when Steele passed away, so about 1970. Perhaps the June 27, 1970 card at the Philadelphia Arena a month before the cage

For those as ridiculously interested in this matter as I am, a poster at KM suggests the Bruno vs Steele match may be from 8/9/1969 at the Philadelphia Arena. That could explain the date confusion, plus the finish to the match and the finish to the 6/27/70 match I threw out as a possibility differ. Consensus seems to be that it was for sure from the Philadelphia Arena

[sek69]

It's nice to see them put some variety in to the Ladder Match collection, there were some different matches put in and not another rehash of the same old lists they used to always use for these things. Some of the old standbys were still there of course, but it was good to see some new stuff.

[Cornette's racket]

 

The next episode of Table for 3 will debut Monday after Raw, and will feature Ric Flair, Bruno Sammartino and Bob Orton

I presume Ric and Bruno have buried the hatchet?

I watched it earlier and I'd say they "did business" for the cameras. Also it's randy Orton not bob Orton.

[sek69]

I've been surprised how much Bruno has done with WWE since returning to the fold. I figured he'd do the HOF and a DVD or two and disappear.

[Johnny Sorrow]

The Table For Three with Bruno, Flair, and Randy Orton is fucking crazy. Flair is wasted, Bruno's telling his stories about the Nazis and his mother, Orton is trying and is generally successful at reigning in Flair and he's prepared and really interested in what Bruno has to say. But at times Flair's going on about crazy road stories and then it's Bruno looking disgusted at these stories of what the NWA was like in the Seventies.

And you also have Orton reminding Bruno nicely that Bruno has worked with his whole family now, and then Flair, drunk and wearing a giant crucifix is talking about how he doesn't party any more. You know he talked to Micheals and he got it all wrong, figuring getting his shit together is just lip service and a giant gold cross that Flava Flav wouldn't wear.

Yesterday was my birthday and this was the best gift.

[sek69]

The idea of Randy Orton being someone's handler is hilarious but I suppose he's got experience with that particular job.

[Al]

Bruno wrestled Bob Sr. at the Garden. That's really freaking cool.

[Johnny Sorrow]

The idea of Randy Orton being someone's handler is hilarious but I suppose he's got experience with that particular job.

Well, Randy had his period of bad behavior and grew up. Now he's a calm, happy, chill family man. Flair, as much as I love him, never achieved that.

[Ricky Jackson]

 

Not sure the exact date or place, but the Bruno vs Steele match from the Bruno collection added today is NOT from the 8/9/75 MSG card as listed. It's clearly from Bruno's first reign based on the belt he wears to the ring. I'm guessing around the same time as the cage vs Steele that was added when Steele passed away, so about 1970. Perhaps the June 27, 1970 card at the Philadelphia Arena a month before the cage

For those as ridiculously interested in this matter as I am, a poster at KM suggests the Bruno vs Steele match may be from 8/9/1969 at the Philadelphia Arena. That could explain the date confusion, plus the finish to the match and the finish to the 6/27/70 match I threw out as a possibility differ. Consensus seems to be that it was for sure from the Philadelphia Arena

To be even more anal, the Piper's Pit is not from 9/13/85 (that was the date of a Pittsburgh show that DID have a Piper's Pit with Bruno, but not this one, which is from MSG) but from 10/21/85. Funny they didn't go with the 11/9/85 Boston Garden Piper's Pit with Bruno since the follow up matches are from there

[NickH]

 

For those as ridiculously interested in this matter as I am, a poster at KM suggests the Bruno vs Steele match may be from 8/9/1969 at the Philadelphia Arena. That could explain the date confusion, plus the finish to the match and the finish to the 6/27/70 match I threw out as a possibility differ. Consensus seems to be that it was for sure from the Philadelphia Arena

 

 

Hey Ricky, I'm the poster at KM you're referring to. Glad to know somebody is interested in this. I found a little bit of info about the finish of the Steele match, it may or may not help but thought I'll share it.

 

8/9/69 Philadelphia, Pa. - Decision reversed when Steele's foot was on the ropes. This is from a Bruno record book made about 10 years ago.

 

I thought this was interesting because George does put his foot under the ropes when he was pinned so that's the date I'm going with for now.

 

As far as the actual match goes, this may be the most entertaining Steele match I've seen. The fans go nuts whenever Bruno is on offense or when Steele is on the outside chasing kids up the aisle, at one point a kid throws a chair at him, no wonder riots took place back then. What George lacks in wrestling ability he surely makes up for it in heel tactics. I hope people give this a look.

[Ricky Jackson]

Cool. Yeah, I think the 8/9/69 date is likely the correct one, which is neat because we have very little of 60s Bruno available outside of matches with Baba from Japan.

 

Going to dive into the collection soon. Fans of PWO podcasts be on the lookout for my thoughts, along with some friends of mine...

[clintthecrippler]

The camera shot of Bruno looking absolutely horrified as Flair is laughing about Harley Race rolling into a WWF show with a gun when Kansas City was still a territory was spectacular.

[Cornette's racket]

I watched the Ivan koloff vs Bruno cage match from the new collection. I have to say Ivan sells for Bruno like a champ. He's bouncing off the cage and flying into the ring post like a pinball. And not a lot of that whole crawling towards the door shit. I have to say I liked it a lot.

[clintthecrippler]

Yeah, the Bruno cage matches I have seen from that era I love that they really do instill "escape the cage" rules as more "beat the shit out of your opponent and walk away" than the race to be first concept that bogs down most modern escape matches.

[iamthedoctor]

Is there a drop of Prime Time Wrestling coming soon?

[Migs]

Is there a drop of Prime Time Wrestling coming soon?

 

 

What suggests that? They did about two years of it a month ago.

[flyonthewall2983]

It'd be great if they finished it off. I believe the recent drop stopped at sometime late in '89.

[Migs]

It'd be great if they finished it off. I believe the recent drop stopped at sometime late in '89.

 

Agreed, I'd just expect that they'll do another show for a bit before getting back to that. Would like to have more WCW Saturday Night up there.

[C.S.]

Another solid Bring It To The Table.

 

Some of the more notable comments/moments for me were:

 

- JBL compared Bayley's recent "fall from grace" to Glenn Jacobs misfiring as Isaac Yankem and Fake Diesel before finally hitting it big as Kane. That seemed really out of touch to me, because Bayley was over like gangbusters in NXT. He also said that what may work in one place may not work in another. If NXT acts don't work in WWE, what is the fucking point of NXT? All of that "THIS IS AWESOME!!!" bullshit they do over there is absolutely meaningless if it doesn't translate to the main roster.

 

- When "...dive" came up, Peter Rosenberg said that Randy Orton "doesn't always leave it all in the ring." WTF? While I'm not disagreeing, who the hell is he to say that? Rosenberg tried to claim that Triple H implied it once, which may be so, but I don't remember that. Wouldn't surprise me if this becomes an issue shortly between Rosenberg and the hotheaded Orton. I'd be pissed if I were Randy.

 

- In the same segment, Graves defended the high-flying style of people like Will Ospraey and Richochet and the "evolution" of the business while admitting that Buddy Rogers bores him...wow. JBL, as you'd expect, took the opposite stance.

 

- JBL buried Kevin Owens by saying the Universal Title didn't have credibility until Brock won it because Finn got injured and then the title played hot potato from KO to Goldberg (even though KO held the title for months). Poor KO.

 

- Dean Ambrose was also buried - by Graves, who said nothing interesting happened when Dean was I-C Champ. True, but damn! Is that Ambrose's fault or the writers' though? Ambrose seemed super-unmotivated for sure, but he wasn't exactly given much to work with either.

[iamthedoctor]

It'd be great if they finished it off. I believe the recent drop stopped at sometime late in '89.

 

Ive not checked the network out in a while because Firefox just takes ages and ages to load the video up but any ideas what years they've covered so far? I know they first started with 1986 so was curious if 87, 88 & 89 all turned up.

[Alucard]

Another solid Bring It To The Table.

 

- He also said that what may work in one place may not work in another. If NXT acts don't work in WWE, what is the fucking point of NXT? All of that "THIS IS AWESOME!!!" bullshit they do over there is absolutely meaningless if it doesn't translate to the main roster.

 

I agreed with JBL on that point. Some things that get so over in NXT just aren't going to work on the main roster or connect with a much larger audience. Most NXT acts probably will work fine but there will surely be a few like that which end up being flops.

[sek69]

The difference is something like Bayley should never have ended up in the "only worked in NXT" bucket. She has been so badly misused on the main roster it's nearly criminal. They absolutely suck at getting babyfaces over on the main roster to the point they reconned the Daniel Bryan era to say that it was all their plan from the start. Now they think that constantly beating babyfaces gets people behind them so you have Bayley and Sami Zayn going from huge babyfaces in NXT to geeks in WWE. But I suppose the blame will be placed on the acts themselves for "just not being able to translate".