iamthedoctor Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 I feel like Beefcake had become what I would call an average worker with bouts of slightly above average in 1989. He really wasn't that bad in the ring. Limited obviously but there are plenty of limited guys out there with far better reputations. Now, post injury he was the absolute shits but that was a pretty brutal injury he suffered. Virgil was okay too. Guy did his job and did it pretty well. If Beefcake haden't gotten injured Im guessing he takes the IC belt at Summerslam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 If Beefcake haden't gotten injured Im guessing he takes the IC belt at Summerslam. I'm not sure he would because that would have meant three babyfaces champions at the same time, which is something I noticed the WWF didn't really do back then. I always just figured it was Perfect getting his win back from WrestleMania, plus what would Beefcake have done as champion? Defended it against Dino Bravo? Done the same angle Tornado did, with Perfect winning it back and reverted to the DiBiase feud? I would have guessed at Perfect keeping it for the Boss Man feud, but since that was supposed to be Boss Man vs. Rude, it kinda leaves Perfect without a direction as champion either, unless he was supposed to go with Tornado later on and they just bumped it up because of the Beefcake injury. But even if he wasn't a "friend of Hogan," he probably wasn't long for the WWF anyway - he would've stuck out like a sore thumb in the "New Generation" era. It's pretty interesting to look at how the landscape had changed in just a few years in the early 90s, and how Beefcake's career would have been pretty much done by the 90s if we imagine he wasn't a bosom buddy of Hogan. Where would he have gone post-WWF? I can imagine him having some value to the AWA or World Class or wherever a couple of years earlier, but by 93/94 if he'd not gone to WCW? I can't see ECW wanting him, Smoky doesn't seem like a good fit, and I doubt Japan would have been clamouring for him outside of maybe a tour as somebody's tag team partner or something. I don't really seem him going to AAA to work with Konnan a'la Jake Roberts either, so you're looking at Herb's UWF tapings, *maybe* late era Global tapings (but probably not since they were down to just locals), and going around the horn with Hercules on NWA anniversary shows, NWF-level indies, NWA anniversary shows, and stuff like those WWS tours or Germany or Australia or wherever. Which is funny to think about really, because he might not have made as much money as working for WCW, but he probably wouldn't have as bad a reputation as he does these days since he wouldn't have been stinking up the ring on national TV far past his prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 If Beefcake haden't gotten injured Im guessing he takes the IC belt at Summerslam. I'm not sure he would because that would have meant three babyfaces champions at the same time, which is something I noticed the WWF didn't really do back then. I always just figured it was Perfect getting his win back from WrestleMania, plus what would Beefcake have done as champion? Defended it against Dino Bravo? Done the same angle Tornado did, with Perfect winning it back and reverted to the DiBiase feud? I would have guessed at Perfect keeping it for the Boss Man feud, but since that was supposed to be Boss Man vs. Rude, it kinda leaves Perfect without a direction as champion either, unless he was supposed to go with Tornado later on and they just bumped it up because of the Beefcake injury. Look at Summerslam 1990 I mean Warrior, Tornado & Harts were champs when the night ended all faces. Was Kerry only brought in because they needed a replacement? I know he beat Perfect at Mania so its not crazy to think he would have won the rematch too, I don't see Perfect retaining as WWE want to make it exciting unless it still happens the same way ie Dibiase screws Beefcake out of the title leading to Beefcake vs Dibiase somewhere. But back then Beefer didnt really lose that many matches on TV if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 But even if he wasn't a "friend of Hogan," he probably wasn't long for the WWF anyway - he would've stuck out like a sore thumb in the "New Generation" era. It's pretty interesting to look at how the landscape had changed in just a few years in the early 90s, and how Beefcake's career would have been pretty much done by the 90s if we imagine he wasn't a bosom buddy of Hogan. Where would he have gone post-WWF? I can imagine him having some value to the AWA or World Class or wherever a couple of years earlier, but by 93/94 if he'd not gone to WCW? I can't see ECW wanting him, Smoky doesn't seem like a good fit, and I doubt Japan would have been clamouring for him outside of maybe a tour as somebody's tag team partner or something. I don't really seem him going to AAA to work with Konnan a'la Jake Roberts either, so you're looking at Herb's UWF tapings, *maybe* late era Global tapings (but probably not since they were down to just locals), and going around the horn with Hercules on NWA anniversary shows, NWF-level indies, NWA anniversary shows, and stuff like those WWS tours or Germany or Australia or wherever. Which is funny to think about really, because he might not have made as much money as working for WCW, but he probably wouldn't have as bad a reputation as he does these days since he wouldn't have been stinking up the ring on national TV far past his prime. Beefcake could have worked in the early days of ECW (the 1993-94 period, where they had guys like Snuka, Santana, and Mr. Hughes), but by the time they get "extreme", he'd be gone. I could see him working in Memphis too, the whole haircut schtick would get over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 As an ex-subscriber I was recently offered 3 months for one dollar, anyone else offered this? I don't give a shit about current WWE but seemed too good to turn down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 As an ex-subscriber I was recently offered 3 months for one dollar, anyone else offered this? I don't give a shit about current WWE but seemed too good to turn down. According to reports they have tried to spike their subscription numbers quite a lot offering similar deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 They dropped the first 15 of what is supposed to be a 70+ episode Mid South batch today, which was a nice surprise. Looks like 1983 is getting filled out first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's racket Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Mid south is being added at the moment according to the wwe network updates twitter account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I just binged on the new Mid South, and I know it's not breaking news to say Bill Watts was great at booking episodic TV but even when the wrestling wasn't always the greatest you still felt compelled to watch the next episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickH Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 Hidden Gems to be updated next Thursday, 24th May. http://www.wwenetworknews.com/2018/05/18/wwe-hidden-gems-on-wwe-network-being-updated-next-week/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 I love they flat out talk about Hart vs. Magee like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 As an ex-subscriber I was recently offered 3 months for one dollar, anyone else offered this? I don't give a shit about current WWE but seemed too good to turn down. According to reports they have tried to spike their subscription numbers quite a lot offering similar deals. I never get why people unsubscribe I then sure if you hate modern day WWE they always have a ton of classic footage worth watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 As an ex-subscriber I was recently offered 3 months for one dollar, anyone else offered this? I don't give a shit about current WWE but seemed too good to turn down. According to reports they have tried to spike their subscription numbers quite a lot offering similar deals. I never get why people unsubscribe I then sure if you hate modern day WWE they always have a ton of classic footage worth watching. It's not just be due to disliking the product, as they may unsubscribe due to financial reasons or just not having enough time to watch the content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 I'm considering unsubscribing just to get one of these deals. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 I unsubscribed when Vince donated 6 million to a politician while guys are having to use Gofundme for surgeries. While truthfully I was also having issues with the service. I was getting error messages on classic content a lot and it never seemed to happen with original programming. They were also taking forever uploading stuff they digitized years ago. They gave me three months free last year to entice me to come back. Which I took the offer and canceled. But it does seem like they have at least addressed my service issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 As an ex-subscriber I was recently offered 3 months for one dollar, anyone else offered this? I don't give a shit about current WWE but seemed too good to turn down. According to reports they have tried to spike their subscription numbers quite a lot offering similar deals. I never get why people unsubscribe I then sure if you hate modern day WWE they always have a ton of classic footage worth watching. Because you can find all of the footage for free elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickH Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 We are getting Hidden Gems every week. OH HELL YEAH! WWE Hidden Gems digs deep into the WWE archives on WWE Network From the legendary "Last Battle of Atlanta" to the historic meeting of "The Nature Boys," dig deep into the WWE archives to witness wrestling lore come to life! Spanning over 60 years, Hidden Gems highlights the rare, the unusual, the forgotten, and never-before-seen footage of the Legends of yesteryear and Superstars of today. This carefully curated Collection is a must for any purist. Watch the Collection debut this Thursday, May 24, at 10 a.m. ET on demand, and look for new Hidden Gems every Thursday, exclusively on WWE Network . This is Your Life: Jack BriscoGordon Solie & Jack Brisco cover Jack Brisco's rise to the top of the NWA. Clubbing with Sheiky BabyRelive a vintage Iron Sheik workout from the late 1970s. A Race for The Yellow RoseWatch the match that puts David Von Erich on the map as a contender for the NWA Heavyweight Championship as he battles Harley Race in a 2-Out-of-3 Falls Match. – (WCCW - 8/15/1977) Dog FightBritish Bulldogs Dynamite Kid and Davey Boy Smith face each other in singles action. (Stampede TV - 10/29/1982) The Hammer Pays the PiperThe rivalry between "Rowdy" Roddy Piper and Greg "The Hammer" Valentine intensifies before their legendary Dog Collar Match at Starrcade 1983. – (NWA/WCW Live Event 7/9/1983 – Charlotte, N.C.) Meet The LugarPercy Pringle (Paul Bearer) introduces us to The Lugar (Lex Luger). – (CWF TV - 10/16/1984) Legends of the RingRelive the Legends Battle Royal, featuring Lou Thesz, Nick Bockwinkel, Bobo Brazil, Gino Brito, Edouard Carpentier, Al Costello, The Crusher, Dominic DeNucci, Tony Garea, Rene Goulet, Gene Kiniski, Killer Kowalski, Pedro Morales, Baron Mikel Scicluna, Arnold Skaaland, Ray Stevens, Chief Jay Strongbow, and Sailor Art Thomas. Includes exclusive post-match interviews. (WWE Live Event - 11/16/1987, East Rutherford, NJ) The Natural LegacyDusty Rhodes introduces us to his son, Dustin. – (FCW TV - 9/8/1988) A Lesson from Funk University Terry Funk introduces us to a new word – a "Dustin." – (FCW TV - 2/23/1989) At Ease, Yoko!Relive Sgt. Slaughter vs. Kokena Maximus (Yokozuna) (AWA All-Star Wrestling - 4/29/1990); and watch Yokozuna's debut as Kokena. – (WWE Superstars - 9/1/1992) The Dark Side of RoyaltyRelive Jerry "The King" Lawler vs. "Mean" Mark Callous (Undertaker). – (GWF presents USWA Challenge - 10/8/1990) Vader Strikes BackRon Simmons takes on Big Van Vader. – (WCW Live Event - 12/30/1992, Baltimore, MD) D-Generation RyzingSee Triple H (as Terra Ryzing) battle Brian Armstrong (Road Dogg). – (WCW WorldWide - 2/26/94) Thunder Meets HeatEddie Guerrero takes on Jushin "Thunder" Liger. – (WCW Main Event - 10/1/1995) Taming of the ExtremeSee Chris Jericho's ECW singles debut against Rob Van Dam. – (ECW Live Event, Queens, NY - 2/3/1996) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 This is certainly good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachchaos Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Now we're talking. A nice variety here and I'm interested in nearly every clip. More Piper-Valentine is always a good thing. I have to laugh at them putting up the build to that Funk-Dustin match after we got it up on YouTube last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickH Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 This match intrigues me. A Race for The Yellow RoseWatch the match that puts David Von Erich on the map as a contender for the NWA Heavyweight Championship as he battles Harley Race in a 2-Out-of-3 Falls Match. – (WCCW - 8/15/1977) David had only debuted 2 months prior and according to wikipedia it was a 30 min draw. And Harley in 1977 was awesome. Looking forward to seeing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye12 Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Looking foward to these, when Yokozuna's match as Kokina didn't make the Unreleased set a few months ago I thought maybe it had been lost but here it is. The Network is rapidly becoming what I had hoped it would be from day one with all the updates and still so much more to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Looks like the Legends Battle Royal is from a show that wasn't a taped live event so maybe this is the first time its been seen? Also is the first time the RVD/Jericho match is being released? I know it wasn't on the Big Apple Extreme Blast VHS at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Hey, 2/3/96 is where I am at on ECW watch through, so I will break until that is released to watch that in full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGinnetty Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 The Legends battle royale has been available in trading circles since the VHS days, but I never found a copy in good quality. So this should be fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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