Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

[The Thread Killer]

 

I actually had one coworker of mine once say: "I can't believe you're a wrestling fan, I thought you were intelligent."

 

If I had a co worker say that to me I would have blasted him with a Stone Cold Stunner!

 

 

If I ever lost it and attacked one of my coworkers, I always saw it being more along the lines of the time Mankind attacked Jim Ross after their interview. I'd give them the mandible claw, while making that loud screeching noise Mankind used to make. I could see myself snapping and doing that, and then afterwards sitting on the floor cross-legged, rocking back and forth while I waited for security to come and get me.

[El-P]

 

Not very funny, that, either. Quarter star for effort.

 

What?! Only a 1/4 star? Your ranking system is too tough.

 

Meltz would have it **** in the Tokyo Dome.

 

So in that sense, I guess you could say Joey Ryan and his dick-spot entertained me.

 

Kinda like I actually enjoyed the last two years' Mania threads here much more than I did actually watching Mania. Whatever good comes of it on the board is a positive.

[Victator]

Did Psicosis ever pin Rey in WCW?

[Shatter_Machine]

Did Psicosis ever pin Rey in WCW?

At least once. 11/2/98 on Nitro. He also beat him a couple of other times, one was a four-way for the CW title that I can't find out who pinned who, and another was a tag match, same thing.

[Hawkeye12]

 

Did Psicosis ever pin Rey in WCW?

At least once. 11/2/98 on Nitro. He also beat him a couple of other times, one was a four-way for the CW title that I can't find out who pinned who, and another was a tag match, same thing.

 

I think Psycosis pinned Rey in the tag match on the 1/4/99 Georgia Dome show. He pinned Blitzkrieg to win the title in the fourway.

[Blehschmidt]

I find it weird that this one gets people so fired up but the thumb up the ass signature spot in PWG gets no mention.

That spot has been a running gag in the BOLA Night 3 multi-man clusterfuck tag team match for the last couple years. Unlike the Ryan spot, it isn't happening all the time, just once a year. I can totally see where people who don't like the dick spot wouldn't like it either, but at the very least it happens much less frequently...and they got Jushin Liger to play along and he looked like he was having a great time!

[shawmic]

Found this at a vintage store in Brooklyn today.

[Eduardo]

Amazing find.

[ohtani's jacket]

Damn. That is cool.

[Victator]

 

 

Did Psicosis ever pin Rey in WCW?

At least once. 11/2/98 on Nitro. He also beat him a couple of other times, one was a four-way for the CW title that I can't find out who pinned who, and another was a tag match, same thing.

 

I think Psycosis pinned Rey in the tag match on the 1/4/99 Georgia Dome show. He pinned Blitzkrieg to win the title in the fourway.

 

I can't say how frustrated I was they did not give Psic a month with the belt. I don't even know why they did it, unless Rey wanted Psicosis to get a chance.

 

I'm watching different Rey vs Psicosis matches from WCW syndication and I'm impressed they manage to mix it up each time. I saw one that was mostly mat work, even had Rey doing a suplex or two.

 

Is there a master list of Rey/Psicosis matches?

[SmartMark15]

 

 

 

Did Psicosis ever pin Rey in WCW?

At least once. 11/2/98 on Nitro. He also beat him a couple of other times, one was a four-way for the CW title that I can't find out who pinned who, and another was a tag match, same thing.

 

I think Psycosis pinned Rey in the tag match on the 1/4/99 Georgia Dome show. He pinned Blitzkrieg to win the title in the fourway.

 

I can't say how frustrated I was they did not give Psic a month with the belt. I don't even know why they did it, unless Rey wanted Psicosis to get a chance.

 

I'm watching different Rey vs Psicosis matches from WCW syndication and I'm impressed they manage to mix it up each time. I saw one that was mostly mat work, even had Rey doing a suplex or two.

 

Is there a master list of Rey/Psicosis matches?

 

 

From cagematch.net, their singles matches: https://www.cagematch.net/?id=91&nr=69&page=2&constellation=Singles

[Victator]

Some TV matches I saw recently seem to be missing.

I feel like Psicosis should have been a bigger star. Not on the level of Rey, but more than a designated jobber.

[EricR]

Is anybody outraged that Johnny Cockstrong was doing strong dick spots 7 years ago and isn't getting royalties?

[Victator]

Cockstrong? He working a super chicken gimmick.

[Mad Dog]

Some TV matches I saw recently seem to be missing.

 

I feel like Psicosis should have been a bigger star. Not on the level of Rey, but more than a designated jobber.

He was more a JTTS than he was a straight up jobber.

 

He also had another brief run with the belt where he got it off of a phantom title win in late 99 as well.

 

I think what killed him is that Bischoff didn't want to push guys in masks and he wasn't good looking like Juvy or an already established star like Rey was.

[Victator]

What I meant was he was always treated like luggage. First he was Rey's job guy a guy for Konnan to beat up at the Clash then Rey's job guy again.

I thought he had tremendous potential beyond the cruiserweights. I thought he could be a big star playing up him being reckless and insane. Kinda like what ECW did with Super Crazy.

[Ryan Faulconer]

Do any other Canadians here subscribe to the Fight Network? I randomly caught a free week of it sometime last year...or was it this year? ANyway...flipping through the channels I saw CMLL airing with English commentary. It was really more like Italian-French Canadians doing commentary in English but that was part of the charm. Soon they would add NJPW on AXS and suddenly I'm following ten or more promotions in a week if I was in the mood. They even ran the first night of the G1 USA show live but I forgot to watch it. Thankfully they reran it like ten times that same week.

 

For an extra $3 I subscribed to the channel on our cable package and was immediately impressed with TFN's wrestling coverage. At that time they aired CMLL/AAA/TNA/Paragon Pro/ICW/NGW/ROH/Wrestlecentre and for a brief time memphis classics with Adams vs Austin feuding. Both CMLL and AAA had English announcing...with AAA actually having English broadcasters like Alex Shane. Usually Shane was a very annoying heel commentator much like Matt Striker tries too hard to be an annoying babyface announcer. Every now and then Shane would have the entire block of AAA to himself and that was actually a solid improvement over his over the top heel work on the rest of the episodes. TFN also had this annoying Groundhog Day-like habit of rerunning parts of the same spring Rey de Reyes shows in random order and configuratin. It felt like it was stretched out over several months and that was BEFORE they started just running repeats.

 

Flash forward to August 2017 and TFN's wrestling contributions consist of ROH/NJPW on AXS/SMASH/GPW-TNA

 

.For a couple of months they ran a goofy Canadian promotion called Wrestlecentre based out of Halifax. They turned out to be a medium-sized indy with a lot of the best North American indy talent cycling in and out while local guys made up the rest of the roster. To say they tried to emulate themselves on Monday Night Raw would be an understatement. Picture your trusty WWE flagship show only with probalby maybe 2% of the budget to pull it off every week. Every show looked like it came out of the same hockey rink. That in itself is nothing that bothered me. It was the use of all of the same production cliches and camera work excluding the filming of the matches. The matches were usually really hard to watch with a fixed camera that didn't zoom into the ring all that often. They stopped airing the show after a couple months. Nearly every week they had good looking matchups with guys like Matt Sydal or Colt Cabana or Daniels & Kazarian and so on but I couldn't focus on the ring because the camera was so distracting. It probably goes without saying that they used a heel authority figure as well.

 

Now they have a weekly SMASH show. They have a lot of the better guys who work places like EVOLVE/PWG/ROH but the production (specifically lighting and cameras) persuade me to skip most weeks. I'll check out the card and watch some of the matches as long as they don't use too many locals like Suave or TARIK.

 

If things don't change for TFN in September I'm dropping the channel. I started out with a robust if not random ten or so different promotions each week to watch. Now - especially after the purchase of TNA they have cut waaayyyy back on the promotions they run. At least half if not more of the hours devoted to wrestling is some form of TNA-GPW. Its not the watchable recent stuff either. How did TNA end up with so many different weekly shows? Besides Impact they have Xplosion/TNA Epics/TNA in 60/TNA Greatest Matches/One NIght Only PPVs (occasionally). Ugh...so much Abyss.

 

edit: I didn't realize how long this post was. Maybe it should have its own thread.

[The Thread Killer]

Do any other Canadians here subscribe to the Fight Network?

 

Yes, I live in Toronto and I subscribe to The Fight Network as well. I originally subscribed for the same reasons you did, I think. They had the weekly Ring of Honor television show, they had AAA, CMLL, New Japan and TNA (not that I cared about that.) They had even announced plans to start airing Tommy Dreamer's House of Hardcore. On top of that, they had a lot of wrestling from the UK.

 

The problem was that I discovered that the AAA and CMLL they were carrying was not current at all, I am not sure how far behind the shows were, but they were seriously out of date, and the announcers were horrible. On top of that, the NJPW show was also very far behind and it was not the show from AXS with JR and Barnett, it was basically a show with random matches featuring Mauro Ranallo on commentary, and I can't stand him, so that was not a big selling point for me. I don't know if they ever did show any HoH but if they did, I never saw it.

 

Then their parent company, (Anthem) bought TNA and that really killed it for me. From that point, it seemed like 99% of the programming was "classic" TNA and current TNA/GFW stuff. They still show some other stuff here and there, but it seems like every time I check the listings it's TNA related programs. I decided I was going to cancel, but then they announced plans to show the G1 in the USA shows live, so I kept it. Big mistake. The first night was full of technical problems and the second night never ended up airing, they just showed a replay of the first night, without the technical problems. I tried watching that SMASH show since it is a Toronto based indie, but that show is horrible and I couldn't even get through the first episode.

 

When I first ordered the channel, I did it because I am such a huge wrestling fan and I couldn't see myself passing up on all that content right in front of me for only a couple of bucks a month. But I have since come to realize that their content isn't really any good. Even more, the fact of the matter is that I have a full time job. I am currently following WWE, although many weeks I save it to my PVR and fast forward through the crap (which some weeks means most of the shows.)

 

That's 3 hours of Raw, 2 hours of Smackdown, and 1 hour of NXT, so 6 hours of wrestling a week, just to keep up on WWE alone. I can't usually fit all that in, and then you add all the stuff on The Fight Network, I'd end up watching nothing but wrestling during my waking hours. The wrestling on TFN isn't really any good, and there are other non-wrestling related shows I follow, especially once September comes.

 

I don't need or want The Fight Network anymore. If I was really inclined, I could watch ROH on one of their syndicated stations, and order New Japan World to see current up to date NJPW, not the old crap with bad commentary they have on TFN. But I can't do that, it sounds good in theory but it's just too much wrestling and I have to be judicious with my time when choosing what I am going to watch.

 

But what really killed it for me was Anthem buying TNA and making TFN all TNA all the time, with a lot of old UFC thrown in for good measure. I am planning on dropping them from my subscriptions this month.

[El-P]

Torrents

[khawk20]

I also have the fight network here. Same deal, the wrestling content used to be out of this world. Classic Memphis even...they ran the vault show episodes way back for a while (St Louis too if I remember right?) Fun stuff on Sunday mornings.

 

Now? As described above. They just got an HD channel on Bell (not sure if they ahd been HD on other services previously) and that is nice, but the wrestling itself...again same described previously and that doesn't compel me to tune in regularly.

 

I'm keeping it just because but that's just me.

[flyonthewall2983]

 

https://youtu.be/usNsCeOV4GM?t=4m21s

[sek69]

Question for the Canadians: WWE Network is an actual channel up there, right? How does that work? Can you log in to the website/smart apps to access the library or are you limited to what is being shown on TV at that given moment?

[Mr. Lacelle]

You can log into the website & select your cable provider & then login using your wwe account. If you have an HDMI cord you're good to go. On the actual channel it plays the live feed.

[Ryan Faulconer]

I don't know anyone personally who has the WWE network in Canada. I'm not paying $11.99/month for a channel. If we don't get the back catalogue they will never see a single loonie from me (or twoonie if I have six of them). Without the Netflix-style library of choices I'll stick to the Japanese and Mexican stuff available...ten year old ROH/seven year old Chikara and PWG and Evolve also take up too much shelf space to not warrant a rewatch. My computer is getting too slow to watch some streaming stuff anyway. I got a month of PROGRESS in July for ninety-nine cents (IIRC) and I had problems with the picture slowing down too often not to notice it. I'm currently stuck on PS3-technology so I can't watch the various other promotions subscription services either.

 

My wife would probably just tell me to watch any of the older DVDs/blu-rays that I have. I really don't have any need to keep up with the current splintered lucha and puro scenes so it isn't really essential to keep up with current promotions anyway...I do pine for the missing 1997 and 2003-2004 CMLL or the early Toryumon and/or the odd MPro show that I no longer have thanks to the inferior VHS format catching up with Father Time.

 

Long story short...wives are usually right when it comes to trivial subjects like this

[TheDuke]

With WWE Network in Canada, you do get to sign in to the website and are able to view all they stuff in The Vault that way. Also, on the TV, if you go to the On Demand menu on the remote, at least with my cable provider, you are able to access some of the old PPVs, of which they seem to cycle some of the old ones out and some new ones in every month. Also in On Demand, in the vault there were some old episodes of Tuesday Night Titans, OLD ECW (like 1993), and some of the Old School WWF house shows, as well as a lot of the newer network exclusive shows, and some of the DVD documentaries that are on there. So not everything, and not even most things, but there is some stuff to watch if you don't like watching it on your computer.