Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

[El-P]

11 minutes ago, strobogo said:

The bloodiest time in WWE was post going public, though. The Ruthless Aggression era right up to the Benoit murders had some of the most insane blade jobs outside of a deathmatch promotion. 

Was that really a lot worse than during the Attitude Era or do we just remember stuff like the infamous Eddie vs JBL bloodbath because it was so striking ? Honest question, this was not a period I was following the promotion nor its business anymore and although I have watched most of its most famous stuff after the fact, I don't have any precise contextual recollection of it. But yeah, I was thinking more about the post Benoit murders era, when the company really got deep into the Cena/Orton era and really went PG, so this is more than just "going public", a lot if not most of it was about going after advertisers and changing their public image.

[KawadaSmile]

It wasn't just Eddie/JBL, folks like Shawn, Orton, Flair (duh), Taker were also bleeding buckets.

The Umaga/Cena LMS match was also a bloodbath. It's shocking how much color they were showing back then.

[El-P]

When did they plain stop blading in WWE ? 2008 ? Later ?

[KawadaSmile]

2 minutes ago, El-P said:

When did they plain stop blading in WWE ? 2008 ? Later ?

It was in 2008, yeah. Right when they were back to being rated PG.

[NintendoLogic]

I'm pretty sure the last officially sanctioned bladejob in WWE was Jericho/HBK at the 2008 Bash. Batista got fined $100k for blading on Raw 800, which needless to say was sufficient deterrent for anyone thinking about going into business for themselves.

[Embrodak]

4 hours ago, NintendoLogic said:

Didn't Sheik nearly burn to death in FMW?

Regardless, I have noticed a strong correlation, albeit an imperfect one, between the decline in forehead blading in wrestling and the dramatic increase in high-risk spots and bumps. It's probably something that warrants exploring in greater detail. By the way, Radiohead is a far superior band to Yes.

No, they’re not. Yes had actually complex musicianship and lyrics that, while cryptic, had poesy and craftsmanship. Radiohead at this point feels like an artifact of a dead era.

 

Edit: can’t let “a much more real demonstration of actual physical skills” pass by unanswered. One can like the modern indie-inflected, hyperkinetic style, but watching even 80s Mid-South or Japan, let alone older stuff with Thesz, I think it’s pretty clear which style required more skill overall.

[El-P]

1 hour ago, Embrodak said:

One can like the modern indie-inflected, hyperkinetic style, but watching even 80s Mid-South or Japan, let alone older stuff with Thesz, I think it’s pretty clear which style required more skill overall.

You're talking about what you perceive as superior "working" skills. I was just referring to the straight athletic abilities displayed in modern matches, which are more "real" because, well, they actually are what they are (in term of flying, very intricate and quick sequences with tons of counters, also feats of strenght too although to a lesser degree). Whether this is taking less "working skills" or not really wasn't the point I was making. Strictly speaking about the spectacle of legit athleticism that has become more prevalent.

[The Thread Killer]

4 hours ago, Embrodak said:

Yes had actually complex musicianship and lyrics that, while cryptic, had poesy and craftsmanship. Radiohead at this point feels like an artifact of a dead era.

Exactly. I don’t mind Radiohead actually, but I will not stand anybody besmirching the good name of Yes, dammit.

[Alucard]

On 7/4/2022 at 10:51 AM, The Thread Killer said:

The unravelling continues.  The former Nia Jax has now tweeted that she is not happy these guys are continuing to promote her as appearing on this show, as she will not be. So this is turning out pretty much exactly like everybody predicted it would.  It is perversely entertaining to observe from a distance, if not a little sad.

Aaaaaand done.

 

[The Thread Killer]

I am not even a little bit surprised, but I was morbidly curious to see how big of a shit show this card was going to be if it actually came off. Now I guess we will never know.

[NintendoLogic]

In more tragic news, it turns out Woke Buff Bagwell was a sham.

[strobogo]

This is like the neck injury swerve for the digital age

[C.S.]

35 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said:

In more tragic news, it turns out Woke Buff Bagwell was a sham.

Where is that? Looks like Reddit.

On Twitter, Buff (?) is saying this:

I kinda doubt the guy running Buff's Twitter would be posting badly about himself, so I'm assuming Buff's Twitter is actually Buff.

I could be wrong...

[C.S.]

 

[JRH]

This is probably the dumbest question ever asked on this board, but do you consider WrestleMania one word or two? I mean, I've seen people abbreviate shows like WrestleMania 3 as "WM3", but I've also seen it written as just one word.

[KinchStalker]

EDIT: IGNORE THIS POST, I MISREMEMBERED THE ANECDOTE.

 

I have a question for those more knowledgeable about Japanese indies than me.

I am writing a profile about Strong Kobayashi, and there is one thing about his Western reputation that I want to acknowledge because I think it's been misunderstood. As has been written in Stan Hansen's autobiography, Kobayashi had a reputation among foreign workers for his bodyslam technique, in which he grabbed his opponent's crotch. I suspect that this is simply what he had been taught in the IWE dojo, and that it stuck out for those who worked for NJPW at the time for obvious reasons. I have read an interview elsewhere on the internet where someone stated that Apollo Sugawara passed down the "unique IWE bodyslam" through his work as a trainer. Is this referring to the crotch-grabbing bodyslam, and did it start showing up again in the 90s indies?

[Strummer]

I was walking outside today and saw someone wearing a Kevin Owens WWE shirt. That's the first time I've seen someone wearing wrestling merch in public in forever.

[DMJ]

I've actually seen more AEW merch here in Cleveland recently than WWE stuff recently (though, at the YMCA I used to go to, I saw a Roman Reigns shirt once.)

The AEW stuff I've seen has been for the company too - not a particular wrestler. For example, at two different groceries near me I saw guys in AEW hoodies. 
 

[strobogo]

I saw a guy that had to be in his 50s riding a bike while wearing a current Raw logo shirt and hat back in Spring time. 

[NintendoLogic]

A former beer shop in my area had a server who liked to wear AJ Styles shirts.

[Dav'oh]

Saw a lady in her early 20s on the train last year wearing a Dusty Rhodes WWF t-shirt. In Australia. I nearly hugged her.

[Al]

"Your honor, she was asking for it. Look at what she was wearing!"

*Enters Dusty Rhodes shirt as evidence*

[bobholly138]

Locally all I see i WWE and the local indies shirts. See more local indie shirts than WWE.

 

Oddly when I see  a WWE shirt it is on someone looking at least 50 or older. The indie shirts I see on people of all ages.

 

Had someone yesterday comment on my Macho Man/Wu Tang Mash up shirt I had on.

[JRH]

Last time I saw people wearing wrestling shirts locally was last year when I saw someone in an AEW shirt at Wal-Mart, as well as (another time) someone wearing a shirt of local indy star Apocalypse.

[Noah's_Savior]

For the year that I was working in downtown Dallas, I saw more AEW logo shirts than any specific WWE wrestler, and there was this one regular at the bars at night that would either be wearing a NJPW lion mark shirt or a Bullet Club shirt.