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I wouldn't have believed this had I not seen it with my own two eyes, but I was sent a photo by reader Drew from Impact last night taken from behind the announcers, and they've got two monitors, one of which is showing Impact and the other of which is airing the NFL game. Tenay and Taz were watching the game all night while doing the show.

And then he writes this, just to remind me why I can't stand him (even though he's still on my Facebook :huh: ):

 

The final Mayweather vs. Canelo hype special is available here. Mayweather is the best heel world champion in a long time, at least until you scroll down a little and check out some Ric Flair from the 80s.

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Let's say someone buys out TNA. What from their back catalogue is actually worth keeping?

Do WWE (and I'm assuming this is who buys them) have Sting, Angle and Jeff Hardy on their hands? There's potential for another DVD for all of those guys and they could spin it as "wow, he lost his mind for a couple of years there but he came back and he was better than ever!"

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Let's say someone buys out TNA. What from their back catalogue is actually worth keeping?

A "Best of TNA" comp would surprise people. When you cut out all the crap there's been a lot of good stuff done in TNA over the years. It's just overshadowed by the sheer amount of crap and stupidity.

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What would be on it though?

Jeff Jarrett-Kurt Angle matches. Jarrett aged into a very fine worker and tones down Kurt's usual spot-spot-spot bullshit

 

Samoa Joe's entire first run where he has a bunch of awesome glorified squash matches and looks like the most badass killer walking the planet

 

Lots of AJ Styles. AJ Styles dragged the best match out of Matt Morgan's career. He had fun non-garbage matches with Abyss. Really good matches with Daniels, and too many X-Division matches to list.

 

Motor City Machine Guns

 

Beer Money

 

Doug Williams

 

New Jack & Shark Boy tag team

 

LAX when Konnan was really into it and Homicide was working his ass off

 

I could go on listing things I've liked in TNA for hours, the point is, if you wade through the sea of crap you'll find some good shit

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I can think of 68 matches worth a view:

 

1.Joe/Styles/Daniels Unbreakable 05

2.Angle/ Joe Genesis 06

3.Styles/Booker T/Cage BFG 08

4.World X Cup 16 man tag Victory Road 08

5.Samoa Joe/Angle Lockdown 08

6.Shelley/Shocker Sacrifice 05

7.XXX/AMW Turning Point 04

8.Samoa Joe/Cage Destination X 07

9.Samoa Joe/Steiner Slammiversary 06

10. XXX/LAX BFG 07

11.Styles & Daniels/LAX BFG 06

12.Sabin/Senshi BFG 06

13.Team 3D/LAX Destination X 07

14.Taylor Wilde/Awesome Kong Victory Road 08

15.Samoa Joe/Lyger BFG 05

16.Shelley/Strong/Dutt/Aries - BFG 05 pre show

17.Elimination X Genesis 06

18.Monster's Ball: Rhino/Abyss/Sabu/Hardy BFG 05

19.Sabu/Abyss Unbreakable 05

20.Abyss/Sabu Turning Point 05

21.Styles/Joe Turning Point 05

22.Desmond Wolfe/Angle Turning Point 10

23.Sabu/RVD Hardcore Justice 2010

24.Styles/Bully Ray Slammiversary 11

25.Angle/Jarrett Genesis 09

26.Angle/Jarrett Lockdown 2011

27.Lowki/Aries/Ion/Evans Destination X 11

28.Joe/Christian/Angle No Surrender 06

29.Sabin/Styles/Williams Final Resolution 05

30.Shelley/Sabin Genesis 09

31.Bully Ray/Styles Genesis 11

32.Abyss/Wilde vs. Raven/Daffney Slammiversary 09

33.KOTM Slammiversary 07

34.Rhino/Senshi LAX Slammiversary 07

35.Shocker/Shelley Slammiversary 05

36.KOTM Slammiversary 05

37.Angle/Styles Slammiversay 08

38.KOTM Slammiversary 06

39.Styles/Daniels vs. AMW Slammiversary 06

40.Waltman/Lynn No Surrender 05

41.Abyss/Raven- Dog Collar Match No Surrender 05

42.Rhino/Raven- Unbreakable 05

43.Raven/Waltman- Raven's House of Fun Hard Justice 05

44.Lethal/Flair - Victory Road

45.Sabin/London -Slammiversary 2003

46.Lynn/Styles/Mr. Aguila/Psicosis- June 2002

47. Raven/Sabu vs. Rhino/Jarrett- Sacrifice 2005

48. Chris Sabin & Shocker vs Alex Shelley & Sean Waltman - Chris Candido Finals Impact 2005

49. Rey Bucanero and Último Guerrero vs Speed Muscle - Impact 2008

50. Angle/Sting- Bound For Glory 2007

51. Styles/Abyss- Lockdown 2005

52. Beer Money vs. Motor City Machine Guns - Genesis 2011

53. Motorcity Machine Guns vs. Generation Me- Final Resolution 2010

54. Bully Ray/Aries - Sacrifice 11

55. Harris/Storm- Sacrifice 07

56. The Naturals/AMW -Ladder Match 2003

57. Sting/Angle- Empty Arena Match Impact

58. Sarita/Wilda vs. Kong/Hamada- 1/4/10 Impact

59. Foley/Flair - Last Man Standing Impact

60. Team 3D/Rhino vs. Jarrett/AWM- Genesis 05

61. Samoa Joe/Cage - Bound For Glory 2007

62. Angle/Hardy -Lockdown 2012

63. Roode/Storm - Lockdown 2012

64. Sabin/Joe - No Surrender 2005

65.AJ Styles & D'Lo Brown vs. Triple X - 2003

66. AMW vs. New Church -2003

67. Styles/Williams -Genesis 05

68. Taryn vs. Gail Kim - Slammiversary 2013

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Joe vs. Steiner is great

 

If you're a Scott Steiner fan.....that's another reason to go through the TNA vault. Late period Scott Steiner is awesome. He cuts so many hilarious promos, has a lot of fun matches, and generally is very motivated. Much closer to WCW 00-01 Steiner than what we got in the WWE.

 

I'd add Steiner/Booker vs. Team 3D vs. British Invasion (Doug Williams & Magnus) vs. Beer Money from Bound For Glory 09. It's a "Full Metal Mayhem" match (TLC) with both the TNA and IWGP tag titles hanging above the ring. It was actually Booker's last night in the company and he's taken out of the match immediately, leaving Steiner to go it alone. The crowd goes nuts for Steiner and he has some awesome house of fire moments where he just takes out everyone. I haven't seen the match since that night but I remember it being a lot of fun.

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I'd add the Aries/Roode matches from Destination X and Hardcore Justice 2012 to that list as probably my favorite series in company history. Hell probably a lot of Aries stuff over the last 2 years.. the Aries/Hardy matches were good, Aries/Sting from earlier this year was real enjoyable too. Aries/Sabin/Manik from June was the best Sabin's looked since returning. Aries/Shelley from Against All Odds 2012 is another.. great X Divsion style match.

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Also Aries/Joe from Slammiversary 2012 and Aries/Bully at Sacrifice 2012, which are my favourite TNA matches of the last couple years by leaps and bounds, along with the Gail/Taryns.

 

I can't see it on the list, but AMW vs Team Canada from Final Resolution 2005 is an excellent tag match.

 

There have been a lot of good TNA matches over the years, plenty enough for a comp. In fact, if anything, in-ring would be TNA's best attribute, since you can cherry pick a bunch of good matches and largely ignore the shitty booking that surrounded them.

 

I think the much harder prospect is finding good out of the ring stuff for a theoretical TNA Yearbook/extras deal. Aside from Steiner math promos, TNA don't really produce ANYTHING worthwhile out of the ring, and the booking has always been atrocious.

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If anyone is going to subject themselves to the torture of going through TNA, at least don't waste any money on it. As far as a few months ago when I most recently looked, the weekly PPVs and most of the monthlys are still available in the normal places. Might be a bit more difficult to get full year runs of iMPACT though I am not sure.

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I went through a few of the Weekly PPVs searching for the early AMW/XXX feud (basically all of their matches are good too, by the way), and it was interesting in a morbid kind of way. I was actually pretty horrified at how many times I hesitated before skipping over the next Glen Gilberti promo or Mike Sanders match.

 

If I had the time to devote to it I wouldn't rule out going through the Weekly PPVs. Although I would never recommend the idea to someone who has already been as mentally traumatised by Russo as El-P has.

 

Speaking of Backlund though, I amend my statement to say that the PCS series of skits with Nash and the X Division were the only worthwhile out of the ring stuff TNA ever did.

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Nah there are a few good things kicking around. The Team 3D funeral was good, Bobby Roode trying to secure a manager - although a direct rip off of Savage trying to find one and ending up with Liz - was good for what it was. Kurt Angle's debut / Samoa Joe clash was good (if that counts, because it was in a ring I guess). But yeah, the negatives far outweigh he positives...

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Well chaps, at least you've got me semi-interested. This is even starting to look like a possible comp collection of youtube clips.

I know you're not a YT guy typically - but this user "TNAclassic upload" has a lot of the individual matches noted above. Test drive before you buy if you will. I would love to hear your thoughts on how this holds up based on you having no history with the promotion.

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