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TNA death watch update: Meltzer is reporting that they have no money to fund Bound for Glory and the next set of TV tapings and Corgan has until Friday to put together a deal. Good luck with that. This leaves WWE as the most likely suitor, and there are rumors that the sale has already happened. Of course, WWE just wants the video library and will pull the plug on TNA itself if/when the sale is finalized. You can't say anything with certainty given how many times this cockroach of a promotion has staved off certain death, but it looks like this really might be the end.

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If this is true, then more revisionism incoming and one place less for workers to go (which means less space for developping talents too). Job well done Dixie.

 

I'm not really sure any revisionism needs to be done. It's not like TNA posed a true threat at any point. What would WWE really need to retcon about TNA's history? The only change is they'll start ackowledging it on TV as a place today's stars (AJ, Joe, Roode) got their start.

 

Having one less "major" company wouldn't be good for the boys, but I get the feeling that void would be filled sooner rather than later. Jarrett's probably licking his chops at the prospect of resurrecting Global Force (or whatever it was called).

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If this had happened 6 months ago I wouldn't care. But with the stuff Matt Hardy is doing right now I would like to see what a fully controlled Billy Corgan TNA would look like. I know Matt Hardy is booking his own stuff but Corgan was apparently the one pushing to let him do it.

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Say what you will about Billy, but he really seems to love wrestling and TNA has actually got better the more control he's got. He plans to finally ditch the TNA name if he ends up with ownership, and that seems reason enough to root for him right there.

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Billy should just start his own promotion . It might just be better for him to restart with a clean slate. TNA owes more money than the company is worth. It would take Billy years to dig out of the black hole that Carter dug over the last few years.

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It's better to buy a promotion that's in a hole and has TV clearance than start from scratch and try to get a TV deal for that.

 

 

The POP deal is only a barter deal . Billy has already met with the POP people. I would think that a new BC promotion could just slide right in that POP barter deal and move forward .

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It's better to buy a promotion that's in a hole and has TV clearance than start from scratch and try to get a TV deal for that.

 

 

The POP deal is only a barter deal . Billy has already met with the POP people. I would think that a new BC promotion could just slide right in that POP barter deal and move forward .

 

That would be better for sure.

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If this is true, then more revisionism incoming and one place less for workers to go (which means less space for developping talents too). Job well done Dixie.

 

I'm not really sure any revisionism needs to be done. It's not like TNA posed a true threat at any point. What would WWE really need to retcon about TNA's history?

 

Exactly. What are they gonna do, create a narrative that makes TNA look like it ever mattered?

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If this is true, then more revisionism incoming and one place less for workers to go (which means less space for developping talents too). Job well done Dixie.

 

I'm not really sure any revisionism needs to be done. It's not like TNA posed a true threat at any point. What would WWE really need to retcon about TNA's history?

 

Exactly. What are they gonna do, create a narrative that makes TNA look like it ever mattered?

 

Considering AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Bobby Roode were perceived like stars by the WWE audience as soon as they passed the door, TNA did matter a little bit more than people give it credit for. So there's always room for revisionism.

 

But it would mostly be terrible for the guys looking for jobs. (whatever happened with GWF anyway ? Ponzi scheme ?)

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The only way Global Force exists these days is that Jarrett and a few others (Dutt, Masters, Magnus) turn up as a package at indie shows and they get branded as co-events. I've got a DVD of a PCW/GFW show, where only 3 Global Force guys turn up, and hilariously they win every match (including one PCW's biggest stars, Noam Dar, putting over Jarrett)

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If this is true, then more revisionism incoming and one place less for workers to go (which means less space for developping talents too). Job well done Dixie.

 

I'm not really sure any revisionism needs to be done. It's not like TNA posed a true threat at any point. What would WWE really need to retcon about TNA's history?

 

Exactly. What are they gonna do, create a narrative that makes TNA look like it ever mattered?

 

Considering AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Bobby Roode were perceived like stars by the WWE audience as soon as they passed the door, TNA did matter a little bit more than people give it credit for. So there's always room for revisionism.

 

Yeah, but that doesn't really require the usual WWE "revisionism", it just requires them to suddenly start acknowledging that TNA was once a thing. Basically, they don't ever mention TNA or ROH by name these days because they both have national TV deals, so whether they are truly competetive or not, they are still competition. If TNA goes under and WWE starts mentioning them specifically its not really revising history, it's acknowledging it. Vince McMahon saying in all the Monday Night War pieces that he "never believed in hurting my competition, merely beating them" in regards to the shady tactics Bischoff was using while completely ignoring the way he tried to put JCP out of business by creating a PPV to run against Starrcade and throwing the first Royal Rumble on free TV against a JCP PPV, now THAT is revising history.

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The only way Global Force exists these days is that Jarrett and a few others (Dutt, Masters, Magnus) turn up as a package at indie shows and they get branded as co-events. I've got a DVD of a PCW/GFW show, where only 3 Global Force guys turn up, and hilariously they win every match (including one PCW's biggest stars, Noam Dar, putting over Jarrett)

 

They also do GFW branded shows - maybe sold shows? - at things like state fairs. Saw ads for one when I was at the Nashville Flea last month.

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I just got home and the last thing I heard on the radio was the introduction to Dan Le Batard's show where he talked about Billy Corgan being a guest and said "a huge wrestling fan, he's actually the President of...he's running a huge wrestling operation right now" which just goes to show how much those 3 stupid fucking letters have held back the company. The Vince Russo curse.

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I just got home and the last thing I heard on the radio was the introduction to Dan Le Batard's show where he talked about Billy Corgan being a guest and said "a huge wrestling fan, he's actually the President of...he's running a huge wrestling operation right now" which just goes to show how much those 3 stupid fucking letters have held back the company. The Vince Russo curse.

Russo was there at the beginning? I thought TNA branding for "Total Nonstop Action" was a Jarret thing.

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I just got home and the last thing I heard on the radio was the introduction to Dan Le Batard's show where he talked about Billy Corgan being a guest and said "a huge wrestling fan, he's actually the President of...he's running a huge wrestling operation right now" which just goes to show how much those 3 stupid fucking letters have held back the company. The Vince Russo curse.

Russo was there at the beginning? I thought TNA branding for "Total Nonstop Action" was a Jarret thing.

 

Russo himself has taken credit for the name. He wasn't officially with TNA at the very beginning but he was talking about it with Jeff from day 1. I think the only reason he wasn't officially with TNA at the start is because he was still getting paid by WWE as a consultant. He got re-hired by WWE in 2002 to be head writer again but that only lasted 1 meeting and he immediately got demoted down to stay at home consultant.

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Dixie found someone else to fund the PPV and (maybe?) the next tapings. If and when TNA finally goes under someone should take a final tally of all the times TNA could have been sold to someone who would have kept it alive had she not messed it up.

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