sek69 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Posted January 4, 2022 Seems pretty harsh to paint this as Swole lying about her departure when "we agreed to mutually part" is the common reasoning for pretty much every departure in real sports other than Antonio Brown even when that's not the case probably (at least) 90% of the time. There really has been a lot of folks telling on themselves, including TK, to get so BIG MAD over what amounted to a black woman saying "yeah things improved but there's still a way to go".
KawadaSmile Posted January 4, 2022 Report Posted January 4, 2022 The problem is still that he, who has all the resources in the world to deal with this in proper PR fashion, resorted to "lol you suck that's why you were let go" on Twitter. Even on the scenario what she is saying is 100% false - which is, for all we know, a "I chose to leave/She was let go" debacle, he is still not in the right, specially due to his position, to throw her under the bus like that. Like, erase that part from his tweet and none of this happens.
Rah Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 On 1/1/2022 at 12:03 PM, El-P said: Take the roster of AEW two years ago. Who should have been "crafted" that had the same star potential and in-ring ability as Darby or Jungle Boy (or MJF) ? It's not like Jungle Boy did not play utilities forever before getting the serious push since last Spring either. Jade Cargill is receiving the biggest push compared to experience level in the history of the company thus far. And really, like it's been said, out of 4 woman champ thus far, you got 2 Japanese and 1 black native & trans. So, trying to argue there's not enough diversity on that front from Swole is pretty disingenuous. So many great points have been raised since but I wanted to focus on this. Why limit it to the AEW roster two years ago? What about the talent pool at large that they didn't sign up? That's setting up its own fallacy. I think the disingenuity, for myself anyway, stems from the marketing they did in how inclusive they will be yet their start did not materialise this. It's taken 2 years to get some semblance of a push for half of these people. Jungle Boy, to take your example, might have worked utilities but it was obvious he was their future from the get go. That was the word on the street from day 1. Darby has had his strengths played to since day 1 (as they should, I'm not arguing anything else). My argument is that they should have included more. Someone on the GWE Discord did the math [source 1 and source 2] and women's wrestling has pretty much been an after thought. Swole argued that there has been a great improvement since AEW debuted but there's still a way to go. I'm not sure how that is wrong. Tokenism doesn't change that fact.
sek69 Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 Just a reminder to all the USA-ian bubbas to check your DVR since any recordings set for Dynamite on TNT probably have to be set back up on TBS .
NintendoLogic Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 Coach Tony K said in a recent interview that a "dream singing" was coming in "pretty soon." The last time he hyped up someone like that, it ended up being Christian (who in fairness has been a tremendous asset to the company), so he has a history of overpromising and underdelivering in that area. He said it was someone in North America, so that rules out someone like Ibushi. However, let's not forget that Mexico is part of North America. It could be someone like Bandido or Hijo del Vikingo.
gonzalez Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said: Coach Tony K said in a recent interview that a "dream singing" was coming in "pretty soon." The last time he hyped up someone like that, it ended up being Christian (who in fairness has been a tremendous asset to the company), so he has a history of overpromising and underdelivering in that area. He said it was someone in North America, so that rules out someone like Ibushi. However, let's not forget that Mexico is part of North America. It could be someone like Bandido or Hijo del Vikingo. Rush, and family?
KawadaSmile Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 Despite being champ, Gresham is a free agent. Who knows.
MoS Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 Maybe it will be Mistico and he will again be very confused and annoyed when people are underwhelmed
gonzalez Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: Despite being champ, Gresham is a free agent. Who knows. I believe Gresham has more independent aspirations. I think he notices an opening that was left behind after Gabe left the scene, and he’s looking to fill that spot.
Stiva Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 It has to be Jeff Hardy, right? It’ll also have the add-on effect of splitting that bloated HFO stable up too
NotJayTabb Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 Would Hardy still be under a no-compete?
Jmare007 Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 30 minutes ago, gonzalez said: I believe Gresham has more independent aspirations. I think he notices an opening that was left behind after Gabe left the scene, and he’s looking to fill that spot. Yeah, he just started his own promotion.
Rah Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 The interviewer added the North American label (asking if Tony has a 'dream signee' and if they 'are in North America) so I wouldn't look outside the US tbh. My hopes is that it is Rush Familia but I'm guessing Hardy for the retirement run.
Dale Wolfe Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 Maybe he just wants to reunite new age outlaws now road dogg is out of NXT.
Coffey Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 Bray Wyatt to slap with Malakai Black & Brody King?
sek69 Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Rah said: The interviewer added the North American label (asking if Tony has a 'dream signee' and if they 'are in North America) so I wouldn't look outside the US tbh. My hopes is that it is Rush Familia but I'm guessing Hardy for the retirement run. Rush's brothers have been working in AAA so there's an in to AEW there, I would love to see the whole Familia show up (ok maybe not Bestia but if he's the tax you pay to get the other three it's worth it).
gonzalez Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 Bestia Vs. Jericho is kind of a geriatric dream match.
sek69 Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, gonzalez said: Bestia Vs. Jericho is kind of a geriatric dream match. You know, I bet those two would probably have an entertaining match now that I think about it.
NintendoLogic Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, Coffey said: Bray Wyatt to slap with Malakai Black & Brody King?
RingoPlaysDrums Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 Dynamite in a few weeks time will be in Johnny Gargano's home town. Could be him.
gonzalez Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 Sting & Darby Vs. Danielson & Regal when? I need Danielson retreating, and hugging Regal like the chicken shit heel he is.
Timbo Slice Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 Negro Casas or GTFO with the North American-based “dream signing.”
NintendoLogic Posted January 7, 2022 Report Posted January 7, 2022 https://www.cagesideseats.com/aew/2022/1/5/22868556/cody-rhodes-regrets-anthony-ogogo-angle-race-relations-american-dream-promo Cody recently admitted that the Ogogo feud was a failure on just about every level. That would seem to poke a hole in arguments that he's supposed to be getting booed and the angles and promos that caused crowds to turn on him were galaxy brain 11th dimensional chess moves to make him a heel who thinks he's a babyface.
Loss Posted January 7, 2022 Report Posted January 7, 2022 Admitting all of that is a big deal and depending on how much coverage it gets, I wouldn't be surprised if the booing comes down some. I don't mean it goes away, but just that it cools off a little. It's too much the thing to do now to go away completely.
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