jdw Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 There was definitely a camera in Springfield, MA for Hart-Mountie, since they showed the ending and post-match during the Rumble broadcast. A one camera shoot, akin to a handheld rather than their normal multi-camera shoot. Which is what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I do prefer handhelds to no footage at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachchaos Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 This is pro-shot, at ringside, by a WWE cameraman, too. A step up from Gabe's ECW fancams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 "They would have needed to be the equiv of handhelds." -jdw "But they wouldn't have sent a multi-crew or a truck." -jdw "So if they taped it, that like[ly] was a one camera as well." -jdw "A one camera shoot, akin to a handheld rather than their normal multi-camera shoot. Which is what I said." -jdw That it's the WWF's own camera doesn't change the fact that a one camera shot is the WWF's equiv of a handheld. Similar to Nash-Backlund: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGoQWNElahg Unless you think the WWWF/WWF/WWE's standard way of shooting stuff for TV and PPV and Video/DVD is one camera shots. Or even something they do semi-regularly. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachchaos Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 We were never in disagreement here, jdw. The question was asked if there was footage of the Bret-Mountie IC title change. You suggested, if the footage exists, it would be handheld. I posted a link to a clip of the handheld footage. I never claimed it was not handheld footage, just that it is of higher quality than crowd-sourced handheld footage since it was taped by a professional camera man with a WWE camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBscout Posted September 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Time to update and expand this since Last Battle of Atlanta is coming out. I cleaned up the original post in the thread since it was all scrambled after the server change. Post if anything on there has turned up and I'll take it off. I'm going to run back through the thread and tack everything on that's been mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliott Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Time to update and expand this since Last Battle of Atlanta is coming out. Wait...what? edit: Ok, did some research...and this is real? Not some horrible hoax. They REALLY found the Last Battle of Atlanta??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topropepodcast Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 I have a feeling it is just clips but I'd love to be proven wrong and even clips are better than what we had before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hegs Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Over on wrestling classics they're talking about it as a fact. http://www.wwenetworknews.com/2016/09/03/exclusive-full-content-listing-for-upcoming-hidden-gems-wwe-network-collection/?wt=2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 "Let's see. All these marks have been dying for this. I'll call this my golden parachute." "I'd like for my daughter to get a shot, and I wouldn't mind a TV role." That's some first class negotiation if it's true. He realizes that it's only a Grail for a certain demographic, but it's still wanted, and he doesn't overplay his hand as far as demands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rah Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 I'm still hoping to find this match; just from the highlights it looks like a top-placer in 80s lucha. Sangre Chicana vs El Faraon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szFDAf3uhlI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 I have a feeling it is just clips but I'd love to be proven wrong and even clips are better than what we had before. It's the full thing - 29 minutes of footage, including intros and the followup cage match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 I have a feeling it is just clips but I'd love to be proven wrong and even clips are better than what we had before. It's the full thing - 29 minutes of footage, including intros and the followup cage match. Is it up already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBscout Posted September 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 I took some things off the master list that have turned up over the years like Harts-Rockers broken rope, Harts-Strike Force finish, and Kikuchi/Kobashi-CanAms. How's this for a list of Top 10 most hyped since LBOA is off the list now: Superdome Dog Collar Backlund-Flair Omni Hansen-Flair Omni Memphis Texas Death Jake-Hogan Magee-Hart Savage-Steamboat Cage Match Flair-Hogan 1st WWF Dayton Star of Death Cage 10- Owen-Angle or LOD-Money Inc Jake-Hogan SnakePit gets a special mention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 What are the Memphis Death Match and Star of Death Cage matches? Is there any possibility of Gotch/Hackenschmidt existing? I wonder because most boxing matches of that era of similar stature were filmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Fuji vs Heenan, August 91, Nassau Not only an uber rare heel vs. heel manager match, but also Heenan's last ever match, and a blow off to a little-known feud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Also that legendary Southwest angle with Terry Funk attacking Tully with the claw hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 LOD-Money Inc I'm fairly convinced this one never actually took place if you mean Feb 92. Been looking for it for years. Animal said in a shoot once that it didn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravJ1979 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 What are the Memphis Death Match and Star of Death Cage matches? Is there any possibility of Gotch/Hackenschmidt existing? I wonder because most boxing matches of that era of similar stature were filmed. Memphis is the March 1986 Texas Death Match between Bill Dundee/Buddy Landell vs. Jerry Lawler/Dutch Mantell Extended clips are all that was ever released. This is my biggest Holy Grail and with the LBOA being released, I still have hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 "Let's see. All these marks have been dying for this. I'll call this my golden parachute." "I'd like for my daughter to get a shot, and I wouldn't mind a TV role." That's some first class negotiation if it's true. He realizes that it's only a Grail for a certain demographic, but it's still wanted, and he doesn't overplay his hand as far as demands. FWIW Dave responded on Twitter to someone asking how WWE got it, and said it was part of the original 130,000 hours (in other words it was part of the vault they already owned and not footage from someone else). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 The Money Inc.-LOD title switch definitely happened, but it was in Denver at a routine house show. It's possible that ringside footage exists like it does for the Mountie title win, but it never aired on WWF TV if it did because of a.) a request by LOD, and b.) the finish being unusable, since it involved the Natural Disasters interfering and costing LOD the match, which went against the change of direction the company went with for WM8--when they went to babyface Disasters vs. Money Inc. instead of Money Inc.-Slaughter/Duggan and LOD-Disasters in a street fight. It's possible that the footage simply wasn't catalogued since it wasn't going to make air. Now, what should be in there somewhere is the first Money Inc.-Steiners title change, since that was a dark match at a Challenge taping and not at a house show. A full or nearly-full version of Ric Flair vs. Jack Veneno is a must-include for a list like this. People have been searching for that one for years--one guy on CrazyMax claimed to have gotten it but was later revealed to be a scammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 The Money Inc.-LOD title switch definitely happened, but it was in Denver at a routine house show. It's possible that ringside footage exists like it does for the Mountie title win, but it never aired on WWF TV if it did because of a.) a request by LOD, and b.) the finish being unusable, since it involved the Natural Disasters interfering and costing LOD the match, which went against the change of direction the company went with for WM8--when they went to babyface Disasters vs. Money Inc. instead of Money Inc.-Slaughter/Duggan and LOD-Disasters in a street fight. It's possible that the footage simply wasn't catalogued since it wasn't going to make air. Now, what should be in there somewhere is the first Money Inc.-Steiners title change, since that was a dark match at a Challenge taping and not at a house show. A full or nearly-full version of Ric Flair vs. Jack Veneno is a must-include for a list like this. People have been searching for that one for years--one guy on CrazyMax claimed to have gotten it but was later revealed to be a scammer. It really does exist? Animal said Hawk no showed and they just gave titles to Money Inc, what gives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBlowPodcast Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 JYD vs Michael Hayes August 1980 Dog Collar Match in a Cage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Hawk was in fact suspended around this time, but I don't think I buy that story. I went back to re-check details in the Observer, and Dave reports that in fact they did tape the match, despite LOD's requests that no cameras record the bout. " The match lasted 11:49 with the finish coming with Hawk on the top rope about to give DiBiase a clothesline. Sensational Sherri (who won't be managing DiBiase & IRS as a team so I'm told and will strictly work as manager of Shawn Michaels who will be getting a big heel push) distracted referee Earl Hebner, while Earthquake and Typhoon rolled down the aisle. Typhoon hit Hawk with a chair and he fell into the ring and was pinned by DiBiase." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBscout Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Someone in the the original thread on the old DVDVR board said he was there and gave an account of it. Not sure if that's where Graham got the details or what. Either way I bet Animal is working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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