Superstar Sleeze Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Bubba already, seems kinda low to me. I really enjoyed Bully Ray in TNA, but I guess nobody watches TNA so that renders that moot. Still, he seems better than being in the middle 300s. Has Devon come up already or was he not nominated? There is no way on Earth, Devon is better than Bubba. I'll defend Murakami along with GOTNW even though I did not vote for him, but I think I nominated him. Crazy fucking energy in every match and awesome facial expressions. The Nagata match is an all-time classic. Oh and I need to change my pic to Fujita Jr. Big Sexy finally jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 People are really sleeping on Super Delphin, whose finisher is literally teabagging people, having a vote as the 11th greatest wrestler of all time. I love this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Kind of wish I had voted low for Io Shirai. Been meaning to get more into Stardom for some time, but haven't seen enough of her work to justify placing her, although what I have seen has been excellent, especially 06/20/15 vs Star Fire. It certainly pains me a little to see dross like One Man Gang or non wrestlers like Bobby Heenan ahead of someone with so much natural talent and charisma. Haven't seen much of OMG outside of the major promotions though, so I'm sure someone will come in and school me on his qualities. Anyone got good recommendations for Stardom shows or matches to start with? Is it available online, or is it good old fashioned tape/disc traders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I like Delphin quite a bit, but I think his ranking at 11 is harder to defend than Quack at 6. I think the guy ages very well, but even if someone was a 90s juniors fan to the extreme, I struggle to see how Delphin gets into a top 20, let alone on the border of a top ten. Good worker, but without a justification that smells like a strategic vote to me. I think you can make a similar justification for Delphin as you did for Quack actually, but maybe I just have fond memories of the Osaka Pro show I went to many moons ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpchicago23 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Jamie Dundee, Corino, New Jack and Alex Shelley have all come off of my list. Corino and Dundee were making my list no matter what. Corino was such an awesome bleeder and made it matter. Dundee and New Jack were awesome characters above everything else and a feud between them based on New Jacks Smw run and Jamies real life shoot interview character would be awesome. Shelley made it based on his Gen Next and tag runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB8 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Murakami is my fourth to drop. He was my #100. Normally that spot is reserved for the wacky/"out there" (or whatever) pick, so in retrospect I probably should've voted him somewhere else in the bottom 10 and made someone else my #100, because I think the best Murakami matches are really awesome and he brings something to the table in all of them. Is he as good in the 1/4/00 Dome tag as Hashimoto? No, and it's probably not even close, but his presence there certainly made the whole thing feel extra chaotic. He also has the greatest lunatic psychopath death stare ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Jamie Dundee, Corino, New Jack and Alex Shelley have all come off of my list. Corino and Dundee were making my list no matter what. Corino was such an awesome bleeder and made it matter. Dundee and New Jack were awesome characters above everything else and a feud between them based on New Jacks Smw run and Jamies real life shoot interview character would be awesome. Shelley made it based on his Gen Next and tag runs i had Corino and Dundee also. Along with Fargo, those are the only guys knocked off my list so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I'm looking over my ballot and I'm honestly not sure now that other than Rusev as a lone vote at #98 that I'll have any high votes whatsoever other than obviously at #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonsault Marvin Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Warrior I won't defend, and he's the first guy to come up where my vision of the process and project are really at odds with his inclusion. I'm not angry about it, but I do think he's way too high using any metric I can think of other than the boring "I liked him as a kid." I highly value charisma and think it drives wrestling in a way that the traditional view doesn't always appreciate. I voted Hogan, Dusty, and Bruno in the top half of my list, so Warrior in the back half doesn't feel out of place to me. I started watching WWF and NWA at about the same time, so I also don't have the anti-WWF bias that some have. I see WWF's character approach to wrestling as a valid way to wrestle. Warrior obviously has technique flaws, but I still enjoy going back and watching the matches and character. I was extremely pleased that there were other voters for the Warrior. I'm not sure what you mean by the process, but I watched hours and hours each day for this project and totaled 3888 matches. I tried really hard to shore up my knowledge of Japanese, Mexican, and British wrestling, so I would be a competent voter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpchicago23 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Jamie Dundee, Corino, New Jack and Alex Shelley have all come off of my list. Corino and Dundee were making my list no matter what. Corino was such an awesome bleeder and made it matter. Dundee and New Jack were awesome characters above everything else and a feud between them based on New Jacks Smw run and Jamies real life shoot interview character would be awesome. Shelley made it based on his Gen Next and tag runs i had Corino and Dundee also. Along with Fargo, those are the only guys knocked off my list so far. I knew I could count on you to have those two as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 For the most part there are a lot of votes where I can understand if a style or era or company is your thing I could see having somebody who is an above average guy from that style making your the bottom half of your list. I really, really enjoy wild brawls, so guys like Sheik and Brody are toward the bottom of my list. I really enjoy 90s AJPW so half that roster is on my list. Same with RINGS and to an extent ECW. With that said, even if you are the biggest fan ever of Chikara, I don't see how somebody could justify putting Quack as #6. Or if you are the biggest deathmatch fan ever putting a guy like Matsunaga #17. Serious question, are these troll ballots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dragon Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 So, so far in, 4 guys off my ballot listed, all in the 90's 92. Jimmy Rave- 338 93. Jimmy Jacobs- 353 95. John Morrison- 419 100. YAMATO- 331 I'm more then a little surprised my No.98 hasn't been listed yet, but something someone said in here is making me think that there's an explanation for that. I legitimately might not have a high vote till we get to my top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I lied--I do have one guy gone, in Steve Veidor. No high votes though, and I'm not sure I'll get any until #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Kind of wish I had voted low for Io Shirai. Been meaning to get more into Stardom for some time, but haven't seen enough of her work to justify placing her, although what I have seen has been excellent, especially 06/20/15 vs Star Fire. It certainly pains me a little to see dross like One Man Gang or non wrestlers like Bobby Heenan ahead of someone with so much natural talent and charisma. Haven't seen much of OMG outside of the major promotions though, so I'm sure someone will come in and school me on his qualities. Anyone got good recommendations for Stardom shows or matches to start with? Is it available online, or is it good old fashioned tape/disc traders? Look up stardom world on youtube. They have started a streaming service through youtube for 4.99 a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eegah Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Strong positioning for Art Barr on the ballots he was on. Shane Douglas is a guy I enjoy but didnt make my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 That moment when you were the biggest advocate for a guy, even compiling a big match list, and then you are the low vote on him. Should have been a little more confident placing Greco so he could have atleast beaten Sabre. It makes me really happy that 6 other people voted for him. Great worker. Re Quack, I really think him as #6 isn't outlandish if you are really into him. Considering he has been around extremely long aswell. And, his fake lucha/WoS/M-Pro style is better and more original than the fake fighting spirit style other indy guys do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Art Barr is our first... well, ok, no comment. I thought I would be the high vote for Shane Douglas. I had him at #55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Surpised I wasn't the high vote for Barr. I was off by like 5 spots. I would argue that at the time of his death, he was the best heel in the world and way better than Eddie, like Eddie wasn't even close. So far I've got the Sheik (91) and Barr (58) on my list, and I feel like I could defend either of those selections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Perro Jr. was someone that was on my list, but was one of the last cut off. Glad others placed him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBlowPodcast Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Will there be a post with just the list from 557 to 1? Just to have the group of names to look at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Will there be a post with just the list from 557 to 1? Just to have the group of names to look at? In the end, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBlowPodcast Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Awesome. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Greco! Standing out like a diamond in the rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Yoshihisa Yamamoto is my third soldier to fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 @ jetlag and OJ, if I remember you guys alway were hyping Greco back on the old puroresu.tv board right? Anyways 3 guys so far for me- Yoshihisa Yamamoto, Barr and Shiek. Kind of a wide range.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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