cm funk Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 On 9/7/2021 at 6:33 PM, C.S. said: Rumors from Ringside News, so take them with a giant pitcher of salt: https://www.cagesideseats.com/2021/9/7/22660023/rumor-roundup-sept-7-2021-vince-misses-raw-wwe-reacts-daniel-bryan-adam-cole-pitch-cody-bray-wyatt If even remotely true, WWE's incompetence is staggering. FWIW Meltzer confirmed this. Says they pitched the idea of Cole being in the Lio Rush role to Keith Lee's Bobby Lashley *shrugs* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 Cole isn't even that good of a talker. I am not even a Cole fan but it's like why even bother signing him if that's what you ultimately wanted to do with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mad Dog said: Cole isn't even that good of a talker. I am not even a Cole fan but it's like why even bother signing him if that's what you ultimately wanted to do with him? The whole situation sums up what a dead end NXT had devolved into when they decided to try to be a super-indy under the WWE umbrella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 Balor's reign of terror is where it started to crumble. I'll die on this hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 You still had Bayley though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 Interesting, Dave (who's been close to Danielson for a long time now) says that WWE was willing to let Dragon work New Japan in order to keep him. As Danielson has stated since Sunday, the fact that he still chose AEW even with Vince bending backwards to keep him, just shows the momentum the promotion has. He basically couldn't resist the opportunities that are open to him. Seemed like a "now or never" type of decision. And man, if Nick Khan would've pulled off that NJPW exclusivity deal.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 Still dying at the thought that was Vince's idea to keep Adam Cole in the fold. Saw some WWE Like he really came up with that and was like "goddamn pal, he won't be able to pass that up". Also how awkward must the next Danielson/Garcia family get together must be when it was Johnny Ace's job to keep Bryan and obviously that didn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Mad Dog said: Cole isn't even that good of a talker. I am not even a Cole fan but it's like why even bother signing him if that's what you ultimately wanted to do with him? Cole is a pretty good talker for himself. I don't see him being a manager type talker to hype his guy, nor did the world need the millionth version of them trying to recreate Shawn/Diesel. But really, they had the guy doing 40 minute main event matches... what was the point if the goal was to make him a manager? Baffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 Pritchard finally remembered Brian Kendrick and Ezekiel Jackson so had to bring it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 Cole was the poster child for "WWE only wants him so other companies can't have him" so it shouldn't be a huge shock they didn't have anything more than "pipsqueak manager" in mind for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 Also how telling is it that WWE clearly understands that these guys have value, (why bother hoarding them away from other promotions if they didn't?) but don't seem to have any interest in using that value themselves. "This guy is so talented, he'd be a huge star elsewhere and make another company a lot of money, so let's sign him and put him on a treadmill in Orlando for years and never generate any buzz for our own product" is such a silly business model it's actually amazing it lasted this long before they binned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 In another one of those fun ironies, the WWE has also thrown huge money and cushy contracts with limited dates and main event booking to a whole bunch of guys well into their 40s over the past few years that the best time to leave the company would probably be in your mid-to-late 30s. Based on recent history, at 40 years old, Daniel Bryan can have a great 3-4 year run in AEW and *still* come back, for even more money and even more favorable booking, when he's 45. Goldberg got booked stronger in the WWE after his 48th birthday than he did in his 30s. Edge is getting treated like a bigger star now than he was before his retirement. Obviously it goes without saying how much The Undertaker's been protected over his whole career, but I'm guessing Kane's one-night-return paydays over the years have been sizable. Danielson hasn't burnt any bridge. In fact, he's arguably done the opposite, paving the bridge with gold for his eventual return and Hall of Fame induction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 Outside of Roman Reigns, there's few talent left in WWE that I would go out of my way to watch. If some how AEW could get a WALTER, WWE doesn't feel like they have a whole lot of people anymore that I really want to watch. They've even really cooled off the women, which seems crazy to me. Bayley got hurt. Sasha is MIA. I think Asuka is hurt too? They squashed Bianca & rushed back Becky. Charlotte is wasting time with Nia. They've been pushing the awful Alexa stuff. Shayna is taking up space outside the ring instead of inside, for some reason. It's crazy. They gave Nikki that awful gimmick & now she's like Rhea's sidekick. None of it makes sense even if they were trying to book the show literally for children under the age of 12. I genuinely don't know what their gameplan or strategy is going forward. Everything just feels so directionless and... random. It feels random. Like they aren't thinking about things ahead of time. Like WTF is WWE going to do? Bring back The Undertaker again? Kane? Get Stone Cold to do a promo? They have no aces up their sleeves anymore. They even just blew John Cena & he's gone again already. Brock has come & gone several times and we've already seen him against Roman at least three times. Yeah, it's different this time, with Roman as the heel & Heyman with Roman but fuck, they've been to the same wells so many times. Looks like WWE is going to put a lot of faith into Matt Riddle & Damian Priest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 Just because The Rock is too big for them, they already shot their Cena load, and Austin, Foley, Undertaker, Kane, Hogan, Hall, Nash, Michaels, and Goldberg have been done to death doesn't mean anything! Just look at Edge! There has to be some other relic from the late 90's or early 2000's that they can dust off and try to push as relevant. What's Heidenreich doing these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 Imagine if one day, Rock buys the promotion from Vince and lets Hunter's contact expire due to a 'clerical error' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, Blehschmidt said: There has to be some other relic from the late 90's or early 2000's that they can dust off and try to push as relevant. Speak of the devil and he shall appear...bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, NintendoLogic said: Speak of the devil and he shall appear...bro. Shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 Jokes write themselves. (although it's probably just being interviewed for some "documentary" about the Attitude Era) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Blehschmidt said: What's Heidenreich doing these days? Still feuding with Alabama Doink for all i know. OK, i'm joking but their matches span across a whole decade - including one in the GOLDEN CORRAL PARKING LOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Coffey said: They've even really cooled off the women, which seems crazy to me. Bayley got hurt. Sasha is MIA. I think Asuka is hurt too? They squashed Bianca & rushed back Becky. Charlotte is wasting time with Nia. They've been pushing the awful Alexa stuff. Shayna is taking up space outside the ring instead of inside, for some reason. It's crazy. They gave Nikki that awful gimmick & now she's like Rhea's sidekick. None of it makes sense even if they were trying to book the show literally for children under the age of 12. I genuinely don't know what their gameplan or strategy is going forward. Everything just feels so directionless and... random. It feels random. Like they aren't thinking about things ahead of time. Most of the biggest issues are on the RAW side of things. On SD they seem to be having a storyline for Naomi (please let her join The Bloodline) and Liv is getting featured more often. They still have Tegan and Shotzi, that while not featured constantly, still got big wins. Bianca, despite their Summerslam blunder, is still very fucking over, which is good if they are planning on continuing that Becky feud. As for the rest... bad timing and bad luck. I don't mind the Rhea/Cross pairing, but what a surprise that the two last people Charlotte was feuding with vanished from the title picture... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 Alabama Doink? Is that the really skinny dude who wrestled the dime store Kim Chee? If there is more than this I would love to see it Edit: never mind, I found out who Alabama Doink is. May have to watch some of these matches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 Are independent contractors contracted with companies with over 100 employees required to be vaccinated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 Just now, Zoo Enthusiast said: Are independent contractors contracted with companies with over 100 employees required to be vaccinated? Uh oh. More cuts coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 Mercedes KV is All Elite and honestly considering how rabid her fanbase is, I think she would "convert" a not insignificant amount of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 How they handle Gable Steveson will be so instructive about the apparent new direction for this company. In the old days, if you get an Olympic wrestler you push him to the moon immediately and if it were me, I would pair him up with a good manager and give him the Okada push to get the belt off Lashley. But I can easily see a world where this guy does three years of hip toss class and then is yucking it up on MizTV in an odd couple tag team with fucking Drake Maverick or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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