El-P Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 No hype. Will Charlotte and Becky shoot on each other ? Will this celebrate Montreal 24 years later ? In the end, this is about surviving, like when you get signed to a WWE contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 I'll watch Big E vs Roman eventually. I'm done with WWE shows for the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 I'll check this out in chunks while I jog on the treadmill as I usually do... - I'm of the belief that the Becky/Charlotte "shoot" thing is mostly a work. Based on interviews from months ago, when Charlotte is relatively out of character (like she was when she did Renee Young's podcast), she admits that her and Becky aren't super close anymore but they're both obviously in serious relationships and not in the same place they were 2 years ago, let alone 5. I give them credit for trying to build this up as something you have to see because they might go "off script" because there are definitely people buying into it. I think the element missing, though, as compared to Survivor Series 97' and even Money in the Bank 2011 (Punk/Cena) is actual stakes/threat of leaving. It might have been overdone, but Lynch saying something like "Win or lose, I'm gonna beat your ass and then I'm going home to be a mom again" or Flair saying "I've done it all here and it seems like I'm no longer appreciated so, after Survivor Series, I'm going to go find some new competition" would've added even more intrigue. - Big E/Reigns and Nakamura/Priest are matches that, on paper, are things that I should be psyched about...but, again, the lack of real stakes don't have me very buzzed. I really feel like Big E could've been built up as the guy to topple Reigns at WrestleMania but that would've meant a lengthy storyline with twists and turns and character growth like that other company do. WWE is too lazy for that so they just gave Big E the title win on TV and called it a day. Now, I'm not really invested in his climb anymore because he's reached the top. Nakamura/Priest is to me a match that would be/should be good - like Sheamus/Priest was a month ago - though Nakamura is much less consistent than Sheamus these days. Still, again, on paper, it feels like a match that could be hard-hitting and physical and fun but probably will underwhelm, which is sadly almost a full encapsulation of Nakamura's WWE run. - There's a 25 person interbrand battle royal on this show? Why? To me it reads that this company is so out of ideas, they can't even make it till the Royal Rumble to basically have a Royal Rumble match on their show. And maybe I missed it, but what does the winner even get? A personalized tweet from The Rock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, DMJ said: I give them credit for trying to build this up as something you have to see because they might go "off script" because there are definitely people buying into it. Are there really ? I mean, to me if you've reached the point where the only intrigue comes down to try to sell "What are they gonna do now, improvise ?", you're totally creatively bankrupt. To me this is nothing like Bret vs Shawn where the animosity was real but there was no "shoot" aspect to the angle before the actual shoot screwjob or Punk vs Cena which was just a super compelling angle but never a "wink wink this is real" moment. I only mentioned it in jest because indeed that's the only thing even approaching "compelling" about this show, which tells the whole story of how bad the booking is. Plus, there's a good chance they'll have a decent match and do jackshit special about it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 Yeah, it seems totally pointless to waste a months-long worked shoot build for a non-title match on a unimportant ppv, but this is 2021 WWE after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 Nakamura v Damien Priest has been moved to the kickoff show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 I suppose it says something about WWE where "Charlotte has lost her temper and got unprofessional against people she had no beef with before, what will happen when she faces someone she doesn't like?" is where they're at now with booking. Also Roman/Big E will undoubtedly bang since E has been saying on Twitter he wants this match to prove he's worthy of a WM main event spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 According to fightful, Charlotte v Becky will be the main event Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 "Charlotte screwed Charlotte" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 52 minutes ago, Strummer said: According to fightful, Charlotte v Becky will be the main event If so, there ain't no way The Rock is gonna appear, like some have been theorizing. We'll never get a Roman/Dwayne money match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 We never should, either. Rock shouldn't ever come back. He can only embarrass himself and get hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav'oh Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Speaking of Dwayne, when he eventually deflates, physically, will he end up looking like current Lex Luger or more like Rikishi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Booker T comes across as someone who talks just to hear the sound of his own voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Wait, Vince is back on TV. Lol they are doing a Montreal finish for Becky/Charlotte, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 I think I am generally more positive than negative, but I don't think it's hyperbole to say this is one of the most difficult eras to be Actually Excited About WWE. They keep getting rid of some of my favorite guys in needlessly mean ways, and it's hard to keep enjoying that kind of company. I don't know much of this card as I haven't been even skimming a lot of their TV for a couple months, BUT...as always I hope for a good show: https://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2021/11/wwe-survivor-series-live-blog-112121.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiraffejustin Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Referee got a name drop, they back to doing that now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Becky vs Charlotte at least feels like a big match. THANK GOD FOR THE DIRT SHEETS, BROTHER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Charlotte doing Andrade's offense is usually bad, but that big boot into back elbow NEVER looks good. Not even when Andrade does it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 I thought Andrade almost always made it look good. Charlotte makes it look like George Costanza running through pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiraffejustin Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 This match has been plenty sloppy, but I've been thoroughly entertained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 That was pretty good although lol at all the THIS IS REAL, THIS IS A SHEWT stuff as they're doing intricate spots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Chawklotte Flair popping up immediatly after the finish! Fucking love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Reedy Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Big fight atmosphere from the start, both wrestlers having a sense of really trying to hurt each other at all times, Becky-Charlotte and Punk-Eddie were two big wins for my tastes in wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Reedy Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, jiraffejustin said: Referee got a name drop, they back to doing that now? McAfee follows very few rules. its fantastic. He also said they hated each other, which is a no no. He's also said 'wrestling' tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' Brian Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 I honestly forgot Survivor Series was tonight. I’ve got Peacock, so I turned it on since it’s there. Does the winner of the Survivor Series match get anything other than bragging rights? Wish they would add something kind of like what MLB did for the all star game. Maybe winning brand gets the rights to #30 spot in the Royal Rumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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