Bix Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Newest mailbag show starts with someone sending in a question about Tom Magee and mentions a WWF December 1988 dark match with Arn Anderson that was aired internationally in which Anderson made him look good. The asker claimed to have seen this match. I wasn't aware that any record of such a match had been found. Dave didn't really confirm or deny it either, just went into his normal Magee talking points. There's some talk about this in the Village Green Preservation Society. I'm of the opinion that it never took place and was just a typo on someone's list. It definitely took place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 When was it confirmed that that actually happened? The PWO, F4W, and KFM threads all end ambiguously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye12 Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Arn didn't have a WWF singles match during his entire run to the best of my knowledge so consider me very skeptical that he had one, did a great carry job, and then was never given another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 He would have been a great early 90 opponent for Hogan instead of Hennig if he stayed but Tully got canned. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 He would have been a great early 90 opponent for Hogan instead of Hennig if he stayed but Tully got canned. Just saying. I guess if you were looking for an opponent to draw worse against Hogan than Hennig did that would have worked out pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 I guess I was mainly thinking of matches I wanted to see. But with Heenan doing the promos, I bet they could have at least matched Hennig. Hogan had feuded on house shows with Bossman, Savage, and Bad News Brown in 89. He basically hadn't feuded with a Heenan guy since Summerslam 88. I bet the crowds would have been ready for that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Guitar Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 I guess I was mainly thinking of matches I wanted to see. But with Heenan doing the promos, I bet they could have at least matched Hennig. Hogan had feuded on house shows with Bossman, Savage, and Bad News Brown in 89. He basically hadn't feuded with a Heenan guy since Summerslam 88. I bet the crowds would have been ready for that again. I'm sure they would have been, I just don't think Arn would have been the guy, unless the matches took place in Crockett country. Heenan hooking up with Hennig 6 months earlier would have definitely helped his run against Hogan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 I guess I was mainly thinking of matches I wanted to see. But with Heenan doing the promos, I bet they could have at least matched Hennig. Hogan had feuded on house shows with Bossman, Savage, and Bad News Brown in 89. He basically hadn't feuded with a Heenan guy since Summerslam 88. I bet the crowds would have been ready for that again. I just don't think Arn had the size to be a good draw against Hogan. Hogan had beaten so many monsters by then that it would have felt really weird for him to suddenly end up in a feud against Arn especially when Arn was only a tag guy in the WWF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 A one off SNME match between the two could've worked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 So Dave was lurking/posting in a thread on the WON board about Impact moving to Wednesdays, mentioning in his usual cryptic way that someone owed him a favor and that a lot of what appeared to be non sequitor comments on the TV business in the all mailbag show he did with Bryan could be taken as hints. So far the consensus in interpreting his comments seem to be Dave got the scoop Destination America is going to use their out clause to dump TNA in September, and he gave Dixie the heads up so they don't get caught falling on their faces like when Spike dropped them. It was also the reason a planned Kurt Angle interview was canceled so they wouldn't have to spend the whole show dancing around the elephant in the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 I guess I was mainly thinking of matches I wanted to see. But with Heenan doing the promos, I bet they could have at least matched Hennig. Hogan had feuded on house shows with Bossman, Savage, and Bad News Brown in 89. He basically hadn't feuded with a Heenan guy since Summerslam 88. I bet the crowds would have been ready for that again. I just don't think Arn had the size to be a good draw against Hogan. Hogan had beaten so many monsters by then that it would have felt really weird for him to suddenly end up in a feud against Arn especially when Arn was only a tag guy in the WWF. In my mind, the feud is all about trying to take out the leg to get rid of the legdrop/big boot. But yeah. That wouldn't draw with anyone but us 25 years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Newest mailbag show starts with someone sending in a question about Tom Magee and mentions a WWF December 1988 dark match with Arn Anderson that was aired internationally in which Anderson made him look good. The asker claimed to have seen this match. I wasn't aware that any record of such a match had been found. Dave didn't really confirm or deny it either, just went into his normal Magee talking points. There's some talk about this in the Village Green Preservation Society. I'm of the opinion that it never took place and was just a typo on someone's list. It definitely took place. Have you seen it? Otherwise, what's the proof? No mention of it on the The History Of WWE website as of now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 There's some talk about this in the Village Green Preservation Society. I'm of the opinion that it never took place and was just a typo on someone's list. Kind of off-topic, but since you brought it up, I've always wondered: What exactly is the Village Green Preservation Society board and why is it locked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanClingman Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 I don't know if I have just been incredibly unobservant, but could someone please explain the Todd Martin/Dave situation to me? I heard that Dave had a wrestler who he had buried in one of the 80s Observers call him angrily, and that he had responded by cutting the Todd show. I am sure I have misunderstood part or all of this, or perhaps much of the story (probably involving Coughlin) was lost in translation, but a synopsis would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheapshot Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 I don't know if I have just been incredibly unobservant, but could someone please explain the Todd Martin/Dave situation to me? I heard that Dave had a wrestler who he had buried in one of the 80s Observers call him angrily, and that he had responded by cutting the Todd show. I am sure I have misunderstood part or all of this, or perhaps much of the story (probably involving Coughlin) was lost in translation, but a synopsis would be greatly appreciated. It was spat started by Coughlin ripping in to Todd on THE BOARD. Basically he called Todd not a real lawyer and a failure of a person in the most venomous and real way and it escalated from there. Dave didn't fire Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Arn didn't have a WWF singles match during his entire run to the best of my knowledge so consider me very skeptical that he had one, did a great carry job, and then was never given another. That is wrong. When Tully was injured/Susupended Arn had singles matches against one of the Bushwackers on the house shows Tully couldn't attend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 I don't know if I have just been incredibly unobservant, but could someone please explain the Todd Martin/Dave situation to me? I heard that Dave had a wrestler who he had buried in one of the 80s Observers call him angrily, and that he had responded by cutting the Todd show. I am sure I have misunderstood part or all of this, or perhaps much of the story (probably involving Coughlin) was lost in translation, but a synopsis would be greatly appreciated. It was spat started by Coughlin ripping in to Todd on THE BOARD. Basically he called Todd not a real lawyer and a failure of a person in the most venomous and real way and it escalated from there. Dave didn't fire Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye12 Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Arn didn't have a WWF singles match during his entire run to the best of my knowledge so consider me very skeptical that he had one, did a great carry job, and then was never given another. That is wrong. When Tully was injured/Susupended Arn had singles matches against one of the Bushwackers on the house shows Tully couldn't attend. Certainly possible, but I can't find any singles results during the time they feuded with the Bushwhackers. Once Tully was fired in late 1989, he teamed with Haku and even Akeem once as fill ins but all still tag matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Please stop talking about the Village Green Preservation Society in this topic. If you want to know anything else about it, PM a mod. Use common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Arn didn't have a WWF singles match during his entire run to the best of my knowledge so consider me very skeptical that he had one, did a great carry job, and then was never given another. That is wrong. When Tully was injured/Susupended Arn had singles matches against one of the Bushwackers on the house shows Tully couldn't attend. Certainly possible, but I can't find any singles results during the time they feuded with the Bushwhackers. Once Tully was fired in late 1989, he teamed with Haku and even Akeem once as fill ins but all still tag matches. I saw it at the Houston Summit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye12 Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Arn didn't have a WWF singles match during his entire run to the best of my knowledge so consider me very skeptical that he had one, did a great carry job, and then was never given another. That is wrong. When Tully was injured/Susupended Arn had singles matches against one of the Bushwackers on the house shows Tully couldn't attend. Certainly possible, but I can't find any singles results during the time they feuded with the Bushwhackers. Once Tully was fired in late 1989, he teamed with Haku and even Akeem once as fill ins but all still tag matches. I saw it at the Houston Summit. Does June 10, 1989 sound right? Was Hogan vs. Savage the main event? It's right in the middle of their Bushwhacker run, but doesn't have any results listed, just the the scheduled main event. The teams wrestled the day before and after, but are listed for a Toledo show that same day also without a result. Maybe something happened to Tully in the early shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Hogan/Savage was the main. A lot of the results they use I believe are newspaper clippings that state the card. So the changes aren't reflected in the results. Some are actual results. I know it didn't last long, but I thought Tully missed about a week or 2 of bookings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanClingman Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I don't know if I have just been incredibly unobservant, but could someone please explain the Todd Martin/Dave situation to me? I heard that Dave had a wrestler who he had buried in one of the 80s Observers call him angrily, and that he had responded by cutting the Todd show. I am sure I have misunderstood part or all of this, or perhaps much of the story (probably involving Coughlin) was lost in translation, but a synopsis would be greatly appreciated. It was spat started by Coughlin ripping in to Todd on THE BOARD. Basically he called Todd not a real lawyer and a failure of a person in the most venomous and real way and it escalated from there. Dave didn't fire Todd. I see. I read about some of that. Why then has Todd vanished from the site if Coughlin was the instigator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I don't know how to post the actual tweets but Dave is getting awful riled up about those stupid TNAMecca people trolling him so hard on twitter. There was some back and forth that eventually broke down into this: Dave tweets: @AmericanAlucard @brydertna Hey, while you're at it, I dare you to ask Bob Ryder details of the favor I did for them?Does Bob have the guts? And Bob Ryder responds proving he doesn't know when to shut up and lay low: Get over yourself Dave. If you can't handle criticism, don't be a critic. Don't need to prove I have "guts" to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 The tone doesn't sound like Dave at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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