WWE quirks, linguistic and otherwise

[efrim]

It was so wretched last night that I could barely keep from muting it. King is just collecting a paycheck and has been for years, Cole is mediocre at best, JBL has his moments but is more often miserable. Its not even the best announcing talent you have in the company. Regal is running a damn commentary clinic at NXT every time he sits at the booth. And of course, there is so much Vince in the talking points/imposed quirks that you'd now be significantly better off with Vince coming out like he has amnesia and doing mid-90's jacket Vince. At least that would be someones genuine voice.

[cheapshot]

I think Cole makes the best of a bad situation to be fair. I think JR put him over heavily on a recent Austin podcast, saying he is dealing with Vince in his ear all the time and anyone would of cracked a long time ago.

[El-P]

Micromanaging the announcers is absurd. When exactly did that began ? I remember Foley leaving because he couldn't handle it.

[Jimmy Redman]

The difference in quality between the JBL of 2006-07 and the JBL of today is just staggering.

 

After that first run people were talking about him as one of the best colour guys of all time, and with good reason. He added a tremendous amount to Smackdown in that period, especially the acts they were pushing at the time like MVP, Londrick, Kennedy, Matt Hardy, Finlay, and when he buried the shit stuff he was hilarious and not annoying.

 

Nowadays, he's excruciating. Whether it shows that nobody can sound good the way the announcing is set up now, or whether its JBL who doesn't give a shit anymore, or both, I don't know.

[Eduardo]

Not WWE, but wasn't Paul Heyman pretty much in Joey Styles ear and telling him what to say in the 90's?

[cheapshot]

I bet the announcers are so happy when Vince has more on-screen time! I bet Michael Cole dreams it was 1998/99 once again.

[Sidebottom]

The difference in quality between the JBL of 2006-07 and the JBL of today is just staggering.

 

After that first run people were talking about him as one of the best colour guys of all time, and with good reason. He added a tremendous amount to Smackdown in that period, especially the acts they were pushing at the time like MVP, Londrick, Kennedy, Matt Hardy, Finlay, and when he buried the shit stuff he was hilarious and not annoying.

 

Nowadays, he's excruciating. Whether it shows that nobody can sound good the way the announcing is set up now, or whether its JBL who doesn't give a shit anymore, or both, I don't know.

Sadly I have to agree with this. JBL's stock has fallen this time round for sure, which is sad considering how good he was.

[efrim]

Does anyone know where the bland yet bizarre quality of NXT names comes from? I'm really curious who comes up with these.

[Bix]

Good question. Probably varies. For example, Chris Hero came up with Kassius Ohno, but it was on a list of names he put together for them and Ohno was one of three they cleared. It was also a much less NXT-ish name than the ones I think you're talking about.

[JNLister]

This is partly the effects of having three hour shows and partly the way WWE works, but one linguistic "quirk" that gets me is when they decide on a phrase and then absolutely run it into the ground. Somebody clearly just heard about the Miley Cyrus deal (you know, from three months ago) and it seems like every other match has to have a barrage of "twerking" references.

[flyonthewall2983]

I mentioned this in another thread, but one difference I notice is when WCW announcers would give credit to cameramen like Jackie Crockett, and WWF almost never would acknowledge their technical crew (unless it was part of an angle). The only time I can think of is when Bobby Heenan praised the camera work at the Royal Rumble '92. This still seems to go on.

[Bix]

I mentioned this in another thread, but one difference I notice is when WCW announcers would give credit to cameramen like Jackie Crockett, and WWF almost never would acknowledge their technical crew (unless it was part of an angle). The only time I can think of is when Bobby Heenan praised the camera work at the Royal Rumble '92. This still seems to go on.

Or trainer Chuck Tashe!

 

Do they ever name the medical stuff on TV? I think I've heard Michael Samson's name but not Chris Amann.

[Johnny Sorrow]

Ever since Lawler's heart attack they mention that Doctor every now and then.

Remember that big jacked up security guy with the beard and leather cap? They briefly had a period of time where they'd mention him and he got a write up in one of the WWF mags back in the late 90's.

[PeteF3]

They actually began a feud between that guy and Steve Blackman, which never went anywhere.

 

Then of course there was Kerwin Silfies' moment in the sun, reporting from Brian Pillman's house about the "explosions" (speaking of linguistic quirks) emanating from inside.

[flyonthewall2983]

I've seen Kerwin in a few documentaries, specifically the Curt Hennig one where they talk about the outtakes from his spots where he shows his supposed "perfection" at other sports. Funny stuff.

 

I just think it's odd and almost bordering on cold that the announcers never did it on the level WCW did. Unless it was part of an angle or something truly unpredictable like the heart attack.

[goc]

Remember that big jacked up security guy with the beard and leather cap? They briefly had a period of time where they'd mention him and he got a write up in one of the WWF mags back in the late 90's.

I miss that guy, anyone know why he left?

[El-P]

 

Remember that big jacked up security guy with the beard and leather cap? They briefly had a period of time where they'd mention him and he got a write up in one of the WWF mags back in the late 90's.

I miss that guy, anyone know why he left?

 

He looked like Pittbul #1. At some point I thought he was gonna be involved in some angle.

[C.S.]

The security guy's name was Jim Dotson. I remember the magazine write-up being interesting but I don't remember what it actually said.

[artDDP]

The security guy's name was Jim Dotson. I remember the magazine write-up being interesting but I don't remember what it actually said.

 

I actually found this: http://droptoehold.com/post/39681525289/wwe-security-dotson

[Matt D]

Monsoon would mention guys. I think Lord Alfred would too.

[pantherwagner]

From this week's Observer

 

"In one of those only in WWE deals, and this dates back a little while, but the ring announcers have been told to announce Del Rio’s home town as San Luis, Mexico. There is actually no city of that name. He is from San Luis Potosi and for whatever reason, they aren’t into the idea of a three word city."

[Log]

Man, they really love "Took his ball and went home".

[Stiva]

From this week's Observer

 

"In one of those only in WWE deals, and this dates back a little while, but the ring announcers have been told to announce Del Rio’s home town as San Luis, Mexico. There is actually no city of that name. He is from San Luis Potosi and for whatever reason, they aren’t into the idea of a three word city."

 

I missed this. I'd love to sit in on one of the meetings where they're discussing shit like this. I bet they last twice as long as the booking meetings do.

[sek69]

Just wait until someone mentions New York City and Vince's head explodes.

[Bix]

Just wait until someone mentions New York City and Vince's head explodes.

Then name of the city is "New York." New York City is just used to distinguish it from the state.