TravJ1979 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I recall in around mid-2003, Tenay had an interview segment called, The Interrogators, and he had Ron/Don Harris on. I don't remember exactly what was said, but I remember one of them saying a veiled racist remark. Found it... 5/7/03 PPV Q: Clay (Aiken) or Reuben (Studdard)? A: Which one is the white guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Thread Killer Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 What possible reason would someone get SS tattoos if they weren't Neo-Nazis? Juvenile idiocy. Historical fascination, similar to Lemmy's collecting of Third Reich memorabilia. A hateful gang mentality they grew out of. Again, I'm not on their side. Just not comfortable with completely slating them as humans based on tattoos I don't know the story behind and backed up by no tales of bigotry in a business full of it. I can buy getting a racist tattoo that you later regret, fine. I once worked with somebody who did that, they were in a skinhead gang on the streets and whilst incarcerated. Once they got out they renounced their ways, and one of the first things they did was get the tattoo changed so it didn't look like the SS symbol anymore...they didn't display it with pride. As sek pointed out, one of the Harris Brothers was suspended from TNA for wearing a t-shirt with some sort of white power/Nazi slogan or saying on it, that is a fact. If that doesn't prove that the dude has issues, I don't know what does. And leave Lemmy out of this, dammit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradhindsight Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I believe our friend Keith Harris pointed out that both Harris brothers are "born again" now. I'd imagine their bigotry will be much more private now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I believe our friend Keith Harris pointed out that both Harris brothers are "born again" now. I'd imagine their bigotry will be much more private now. Or they just limit it to facebook posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Well that's one positive of living in a social media driven world, the truly bigoted can't help but make their feelings known at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Off-topic, but I am curoous about this: if an Indian dude who is a proud Hindu is signed by WWE, and then is shown to have the swastika tattooed - the millenia-old Hindu swastika, mind, not the Nazi perversion that Hitler stole - would the American public/corporate executives accept it? Hindus have been using it for a very, very long time; to them, it means nothing but a symbol of pace and good wishes, and is no different from a Christian tattooing the cross on their skin, but in PR and in the public spotlight, perception almost always matters more than reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 The Japanese (Kanji) character for "manji" (as in "manji-gatame", the finisher of Inoki etc.) is also a reverse Swastika. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Off-topic, but I am curoous about this: if an Indian dude who is a proud Hindu is signed by WWE, and then is shown to have the swastika tattooed - the millenia-old Hindu swastika, mind, not the Nazi perversion that Hitler stole - would the American public/corporate executives accept it? Hindus have been using it for a very, very long time; to them, it means nothing but a symbol of pace and good wishes, and is no different from a Christian tattooing the cross on their skin, but in PR and in the public spotlight, perception almost always matters more than reality. I would think someone Indian would at least have the opportunity to explain it, since Americans would probably be confused at seeing a brown-skinned person sporting a symbol most only know as emblematic of a hate group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElHijodeGorgeousGeorge Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 If anything, TNA is the most squandered promotion in history. If you look at the roster they had in 2005-2006 compared to today and you weren't around back then you'd think they were on the rise. It's just a long, sad story of bad booking and "too-good-too-late" signings that haven't amounted to anything substantial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 The only times I feel like they had momentum were at the height of Joe's undefeated streak, around the time Angle came in. And then they kind of ruined Joe by having him lose too much to Angle. The 2nd time was when Aries won the title and the show was actually being booked pretty well and people were actually praising it online. Then they started the Aces and Eights thing that dragged on wayyyy to long and everyone lost interest again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dragon Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I'll defend that run of time when Aries became the face of TNA as being a quality year for the company. That was also including the Bobby Roode title run, which was pretty wonderfully done, and Aries rise was the perfect end there. But then Aries turned heel to lose to Jeff Hardy, and that was kinda that. Still though, I'd suggest if you ever want to see TNA at it's best in the last decade, that was the stretch to check out. I actually bought the Pay Per View Aries won the title on, and I don't regret the purchase a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I'll defend that run of time when Aries became the face of TNA as being a quality year for the company. That was also including the Bobby Roode title run, which was pretty wonderfully done, and Aries rise was the perfect end there. But then Aries turned heel to lose to Jeff Hardy, and that was kinda that. Still though, I'd suggest if you ever want to see TNA at it's best in the last decade, that was the stretch to check out. I actually bought the Pay Per View Aries won the title on, and I don't regret the purchase a bit. Agreed. Oct 2011 to Oct 2012 is my favorite TNA year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingSavage Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Agreed. I genuinely enjoyed almost everything between BFG '11 and BFG '12. The Bobby Roode title reign, the James Storm retribution saga, the rise of Aries, Bully Ray reaching the peak of his powers as a scummy, dirtbag heel, Christopher Daniels finally putting all the pieces together and fully EMBRACING his showmanship as a character, etc. It felt like they were onto something for a moment there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 I believe our friend Keith Harris pointed out that both Harris brothers are "born again" now. I'd imagine their bigotry will be much more private now. Yeah, I mentioned this on Twitter. No relation, thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 We have a new contender for the greatest/worst thing TNA has ever done. Take five minutes out of your day and watch this. Trust me, it's worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 The acting is sub-pornography bad. Wtf does Matt have a dead badger on his head? Abysmal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 We have a new contender for the greatest/worst thing TNA has ever done. Take five minutes out of your day and watch this. Trust me, it's worth it. Amazing. Certainly beats your boring endless WWE promos. I lean on "greatest". This is what modern pro-wrestling should be more like (yeah, with LU as the apex). I'm amazed at Matt Hardy's haircut. I almost want to watch that match now. Almost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 I love the video, posted it on Facebook and got a ton of likes for it. It is as if Tommy Wiseau of "The Room" got to direct one angle and this is what we got. Absolutely breathtaking stuff. But will the gloriousness of this bizarre performance art masterpiece sell a single Slammiversary PPV buy? I know I'm not interested...and yet I've been telling everyone I know, fan and non fan, that it's the best video I've seen in years and have probably watched it 7 or 8 times by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 I love the video, posted it on Facebook and got a ton of likes for it. It is as if Tommy Wiseau of "The Room" got to direct one angle and this is what we got. Absolutely breathtaking stuff. But will the gloriousness of this bizarre performance art masterpiece sell a single Slammiversary PPV buy? I know I'm not interested...and yet I've been telling everyone I know, fan and non fan, that it's the best video I've seen in years and have probably watched it 7 or 8 times by now. Amazing. That really is the perfect comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 I kinda like how Matt Hardy gives no shits now. I mean, it's not like anyone's buying a TNA PPV no matter what so why not let him do some Adult Swim at 4 AM level stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 I watched it and I feel like Principal Skinner. "It is possible I'm out of touch? No. It's the CHILDREN who are wrong." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutenberger Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 This was the first video I've watched after getting up at 11 am and I'm seriously considering just lying down again and think about this all day... Although I gotta say I' almost interested to see how it came to this. Not worth watching anything, but almost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Are we finally starting to see the Billy Corgan influence on the product, with this vignette? Whatever it is, I loved that. That was just so cheesy. If Matt had hammed it up like that earlier in his career, how different might it have been? It's as if his promo coach was the Almighty Shatner himself. All we needed was . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 All six of Matt Hardy's accents were amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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