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I recall in around mid-2003, Tenay had an interview segment called, The Interrogators, and he had Ron/Don Harris on. I don't remember exactly what was said, but I remember one of them saying a veiled racist remark.

 

Found it...

 

5/7/03 PPV

 

Q: Clay (Aiken) or Reuben (Studdard)?

 

A: Which one is the white guy?

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What possible reason would someone get SS tattoos if they weren't Neo-Nazis?

Juvenile idiocy. Historical fascination, similar to Lemmy's collecting of Third Reich memorabilia. A hateful gang mentality they grew out of.

Again, I'm not on their side. Just not comfortable with completely slating them as humans based on tattoos I don't know the story behind and backed up by no tales of bigotry in a business full of it.

 

 

I can buy getting a racist tattoo that you later regret, fine. I once worked with somebody who did that, they were in a skinhead gang on the streets and whilst incarcerated. Once they got out they renounced their ways, and one of the first things they did was get the tattoo changed so it didn't look like the SS symbol anymore...they didn't display it with pride.

 

As sek pointed out, one of the Harris Brothers was suspended from TNA for wearing a t-shirt with some sort of white power/Nazi slogan or saying on it, that is a fact. If that doesn't prove that the dude has issues, I don't know what does.

 

And leave Lemmy out of this, dammit.

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Off-topic, but I am curoous about this: if an Indian dude who is a proud Hindu is signed by WWE, and then is shown to have the swastika tattooed - the millenia-old Hindu swastika, mind, not the Nazi perversion that Hitler stole - would the American public/corporate executives accept it? Hindus have been using it for a very, very long time; to them, it means nothing but a symbol of pace and good wishes, and is no different from a Christian tattooing the cross on their skin, but in PR and in the public spotlight, perception almost always matters more than reality.

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Off-topic, but I am curoous about this: if an Indian dude who is a proud Hindu is signed by WWE, and then is shown to have the swastika tattooed - the millenia-old Hindu swastika, mind, not the Nazi perversion that Hitler stole - would the American public/corporate executives accept it? Hindus have been using it for a very, very long time; to them, it means nothing but a symbol of pace and good wishes, and is no different from a Christian tattooing the cross on their skin, but in PR and in the public spotlight, perception almost always matters more than reality.

 

 

I would think someone Indian would at least have the opportunity to explain it, since Americans would probably be confused at seeing a brown-skinned person sporting a symbol most only know as emblematic of a hate group.

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If anything, TNA is the most squandered promotion in history. If you look at the roster they had in 2005-2006 compared to today and you weren't around back then you'd think they were on the rise. It's just a long, sad story of bad booking and "too-good-too-late" signings that haven't amounted to anything substantial.

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The only times I feel like they had momentum were at the height of Joe's undefeated streak, around the time Angle came in. And then they kind of ruined Joe by having him lose too much to Angle.

 

The 2nd time was when Aries won the title and the show was actually being booked pretty well and people were actually praising it online. Then they started the Aces and Eights thing that dragged on wayyyy to long and everyone lost interest again.

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I'll defend that run of time when Aries became the face of TNA as being a quality year for the company. That was also including the Bobby Roode title run, which was pretty wonderfully done, and Aries rise was the perfect end there.

 

But then Aries turned heel to lose to Jeff Hardy, and that was kinda that.

 

Still though, I'd suggest if you ever want to see TNA at it's best in the last decade, that was the stretch to check out. I actually bought the Pay Per View Aries won the title on, and I don't regret the purchase a bit.

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I'll defend that run of time when Aries became the face of TNA as being a quality year for the company. That was also including the Bobby Roode title run, which was pretty wonderfully done, and Aries rise was the perfect end there.

 

But then Aries turned heel to lose to Jeff Hardy, and that was kinda that.

 

Still though, I'd suggest if you ever want to see TNA at it's best in the last decade, that was the stretch to check out. I actually bought the Pay Per View Aries won the title on, and I don't regret the purchase a bit.

 

Agreed. Oct 2011 to Oct 2012 is my favorite TNA year.

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Agreed. I genuinely enjoyed almost everything between BFG '11 and BFG '12.

 

The Bobby Roode title reign, the James Storm retribution saga, the rise of Aries, Bully Ray reaching the peak of his powers as a scummy, dirtbag heel, Christopher Daniels finally putting all the pieces together and fully EMBRACING his showmanship as a character, etc. It felt like they were onto something for a moment there.

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We have a new contender for the greatest/worst thing TNA has ever done.

 

 

Take five minutes out of your day and watch this. Trust me, it's worth it.

 

Amazing. Certainly beats your boring endless WWE promos. I lean on "greatest". This is what modern pro-wrestling should be more like (yeah, with LU as the apex). I'm amazed at Matt Hardy's haircut. I almost want to watch that match now. Almost.

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I love the video, posted it on Facebook and got a ton of likes for it. It is as if Tommy Wiseau of "The Room" got to direct one angle and this is what we got. Absolutely breathtaking stuff.

 

But will the gloriousness of this bizarre performance art masterpiece sell a single Slammiversary PPV buy? I know I'm not interested...and yet I've been telling everyone I know, fan and non fan, that it's the best video I've seen in years and have probably watched it 7 or 8 times by now.

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I love the video, posted it on Facebook and got a ton of likes for it. It is as if Tommy Wiseau of "The Room" got to direct one angle and this is what we got. Absolutely breathtaking stuff.

But will the gloriousness of this bizarre performance art masterpiece sell a single Slammiversary PPV buy? I know I'm not interested...and yet I've been telling everyone I know, fan and non fan, that it's the best video I've seen in years and have probably watched it 7 or 8 times by now.

Amazing. That really is the perfect comparison.

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This was the first video I've watched after getting up at 11 am and I'm seriously considering just lying down again and think about this all day... Although I gotta say I' almost interested to see how it came to this. Not worth watching anything, but almost.

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Are we finally starting to see the Billy Corgan influence on the product, with this vignette? Whatever it is, I loved that. That was just so cheesy. If Matt had hammed it up like that earlier in his career, how different might it have been? It's as if his promo coach was the Almighty Shatner himself. All we needed was

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