KawadaSmile Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 3 hours ago, C.S. said: Max Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii was apparently Bray Wyatted, with Maxxine Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii (Sooooooooooooooooooo Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiia Cromwell) becoming the Alexa Bliss to his act and replacing him entirely. https://www.f4wonline.com/news/wwe/report-max-dupri-done-with-wwes-maximum-male-models-faction More Sofia Cromwell is always good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 Finding out that Maximum Male Models was a complete Vince idea he was interested in to the point he was in the ring producing segments is the least surprising Vince News of the week so far. Also puzzled that he had a specific idea in mind for how the Max Dupri character should be played, and that seems to be another piece of evidence he still doesn't watch NXT since Eli Drake/LA Knight/Max Dupri only has one style he can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 I hope we find out what put this into motion. Pending WSJ, Real Sports or other pieces? Fox/NBC putting in the call? Its notable that both of WWE's broadcast partners remained silent on this news. Supposed I'm cautiously optimistic on the impact this'll have on the product, but not holding my breath. It sounds like Kevin Dunn should be next out the door and hopefully that means production is steered away from his/Vince's seizure-inviting style. As noted elsewhere here, Steph is born, raised and fed on Vince's creative philosophy so I'm not sure we should expect any dramatic changes to the product. Maybe the women's division returning to the Divas era doesn't happen? Maybe some smaller wrestlers are given a realistic chance on the main roster line with Levesque's work in NXT? Maybe not. But having a glimmer of hope that something will change for the better is better than not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 Rumors are that when Real Sports interviewed Vince for whatever their story will be, the questions he was asked showed HBO knew way more about everything than WWE/Vince realized and that's what prompted him to bail. We won't see huge changes overnight, but things that were 100% Vince quirks like strange verbiage and yelling in the announcers' headsets will be things that will no longer be happening. Dave pretty much outright said last night the announcing in WWE is going to improve immensely now that they will be able to talk like normal humans and not have to worry about getting screamed at all night. I also think Steph shouldn't necessarily be painted with the same brush as Vince, at least not yet. Yes that was what she was raised on, but since we've never seen WWE without Vince having final creative say, we really can't just assume she's going to just be Vince 2.0 only (hopefully) less horny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 Isn’t Stephanie at least partly responsible for much of the structural problems with the product? I seem to recall that the shift toward writers was a Stephanie thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Embrodak said: Isn’t Stephanie at least partly responsible for much of the structural problems with the product? I seem to recall that the shift toward writers was a Stephanie thing. Isn't she the person in all the world least likely to think there are any structural problems in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted July 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 On 7/23/2022 at 10:06 AM, JerryvonKramer said: I actually think Vince is done here. Also surely this story is worth its own thread? Meltzer called it the biggest wrestling story since the death of WCW. I started this thread in complete anticipation of this moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 Really glad this has happened, just so fans who acted like Vince was the only issue and Hunter would save them all and usher in another wrestling boom can once again get a massive shock as creative still sucks and things don't get better Rea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 Trip not having followed pro-wrestling for one year be like : call Adam Cole, he's getting up to the main roster ! What ? WHAT ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 The key to turning things around creatively is more skulls and ladder matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 While I’m not confident Trips taking over creative is going to make things significantly better, I don’t think it’s going to make it any worse either. At worst there will be no noticeable difference. Once again, this is all operating under the assumption that Vince is not secretly pulling the strings behind the scenes. Having said that, there was a very brief period of time when NXT was putting out a damn good product, and Triple H was in charge then. It is actually conceivable that this could be a good thing. I am choosing to remain open minded and wait to see what he does. I also know it’s not like the changes are going to be happening overnight. My question is, what exactly is Bruce Pritchard‘s job now? He is no longer in charge of talent relations, and now he is no longer in charge of creative either. Is he going over to Vince’s house to wash his car or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 The floodgates remain open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 Vince and Dunn both being out is huge. WWE could very well be unrecognizable several months from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 Holy fuck ! I'm so having a drink over that one ! Maybe I'll be able to watch WWE again without getting a migraine. Bye Kevin Dunn, you were the fucking worst and apparently a poor excuse for a human being too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 I have seen rumours on Twitter that if Dunn is out, Jeremy Borash would be the one to take his place? I don’t know if I put any stock in Twitter rumours, but that would certainly be something if true. As I said earlier, if Dunn and Pritchard actually go, I am prepared to believe they actually are making real changes and Vince is really gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, El-P said: Trip not having followed pro-wrestling for one year be like : call Adam Cole, he's getting up to the main roster ! What ? WHAT ? His next step will be to call Regal to ask what's going on with NXT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Wolfe Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 If getting rid of Dunn means they can transition back to a watchable visual style without the rapid cuts, then that's a big step in the right directiom straight away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 Just now, Robert S said: His next step will be to call Regal to ask what's going on with NXT. Maybe he watched that ROH PPV and thought Vince had bought the thing and just gave a new name to Cesaro and the Revival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 With Trips and Steph having this kind of power now, I wonder if Tony Khan would throw a feeler to Paul Heyman to see how much it's left in his contract. There's a lot Heyman could add to AEW but my main thing would be the possible fuckery of Paul getting in the ear of Roman or Brock for big paychecks and little dates from whatever networks gives AEW it's new TV deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 Even wilder. We know TK is willing to work with anyone. With new people in charge (and I mean actual new people, not the quick "change but not really" stuff we're seeing right now), would WWE be willing to actually work with AEW eventually ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 If we're fantasy booking a call to Paul Heyman, I'd actually be offering him full control for Ring of Honor, but that's beside the point. And yeah, setting aside that the entire company is so thoroughly rotten at this point that I can't wait to shovel dirt on it, there is certainly a (nostalgic?) part of me that recognizes that Dunn possibly leaving along with Vince opens up a whole new possibility space where WWE could actually be watchable as a television product again. Just amazing potential for wholesale addition by subtraction here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchReedMark Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 JB as head of production would be fucking brill though. He’s brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 I don’t think any of this will matter because with stock prices going up, a sale is more than likely imminent. Which means basically nobody is safe. It’s not rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, but everything right now should have an “interim” title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 With Triple H seemingly now in firm control of Creative, do we see any people getting better pushes in the future? Conversely, do we saw any people getting phased out and put on the sidelines? Really curious to see if that's going to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 Just now, SirEdger said: With Triple H seemingly now in firm control of Creative, do we see any people getting better pushes in the future? Conversely, do we saw any people getting phased out and put on the sidelines? Really curious to see if that's going to be the case. Ciampa is gonna get a push and Adam Cole is getting a call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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