Loss Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Bagwell was like a poor man's Jeff Jarrett, who was already pretty poor. The problem wasn't the ringwork, it was the grating personality where he was so obviously pandering and begging for a crowd reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Jenna Morasca is surely disqualified for being a celebrity. Or a "celebrity". That Nathan Jones debut wasn't that bad. It was pretty short and he didn't screw anything up. There have been plenty of worse debuts than that, even in recent company history. Kizarny, for example. Vladimir Kozlov. Unless that particular match wasn't supposed to be evidence against him. Not that Jones was any good either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Nah it was just the first match I saw with his name on it. Sharmell was horrible in that match as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Ron Reis was pretty terrible. I almost named him also but I wasn't sure if he really had a long enough career. Pretty awful wrestler though for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMD Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I think Buff Bagwell was actually good enough as Marcus Bagwell to not even touch sniff something like this. He wasn't good, but he was OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Well Disco Inferno lasted a long time. He was awful in the ring and the fans hated him . He could be a contender .After Gulas and Zulu . Marcus Alexander " Buff" Bagwell he right there with Disco , crap in the ring and very unlikable. Local wrestler Brian Christopher is truly awful . Those are a few names.Brian Christopher is the worst suggestion that I've read in this thread. I haven't seen anything of him from the past few years, but have seen more than enough early to mid 90s USWA and his WWF run to say that he is nowhere near. The guy also had an abundance of charisma and could cut a promo. He wouldn't even make a worse 1,000 wrestlers ever list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Jon Heidenreich forgot to use his arms executing a double suplex on PPV and almost killed someone with an electric chair drop, he should be mentioned. 2005 Legion of Doom was occasionally watchable so I guess he has that going for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Jon Heidenreich forgot to use his arms executing a double suplex on PPV and almost killed someone with an electric chair drop, he should be mentioned. 2005 Legion of Doom was occasionally watchable so I guess he has that going for him. Loved LOD 2k5 and marked out for their title win. Wish WWE would do more one more run for legends like they did around 05-06 with Animal, Tatanka, Jannetty, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherwagner Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I think Buff Bagwell was actually good enough as Marcus Bagwell to not even touch sniff something like this. He wasn't good, but he was OK. Yeah, I thought that as MAB he got good pretty fast. He was terrible by the end of WCW but a lot of people were. The American Males was a gimmick that was a decade too old when it was done. I loved the (short) Vicious and Delicious run and at that time I was sure that Bagwell had put all the pieces together to become a world champ. Kung Fu (the Mexican one not the British one) was decent enough when he was young not to be in the discussion but his bad years were among the worst I have ever seen in Mexico. Definite candidate for the most annoying wrestler ever as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W2BTD Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Has anybody brought up either Haystacks, Calhoun or Giant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 If you think Brian Christopher or Disco Inferno are literally the WORST professional wrestlers EVER, then you have lived one privileged fucking life of pro wrestling viewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Has anybody brought up either Haystacks, Calhoun or Giant? His WCW run does him no favours, but I've seen Haystacks matches in my WOS viewing that I've enjoyed. He's not the world's best by any means, but he is better than Daddy without question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Mark Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 If you think Brian Christopher or Disco Inferno are literally the WORST professional wrestlers EVER, then you have lived one privileged fucking life of pro wrestling viewing. Yes I have live a privileged life as far as wrestling viewing goes .. Since 1970 I seen a lot of the top talent live. I saw Brian Christopher first match and he has never been good. BC got worse went he went to the WWE. Now he basically dances and panders to the crowd the entire match . .His work is not good. That is just my POV. When I think of wrestling . I think of Nick Bockwinkle , Jack Brisco , Billy Robinson , The Funks, Johnny Walker and Bill Dundee . Not Brian Christopher , Buff and Disco. However if someone enjoy Brian Christopher work that is great, to each their own. To me is one of the worst wrestlers I have ever seen in my life. Barely better than George Gulas . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 I'm really surprised at how down you are on Brian Christopher, especially since I'm pretty sure you have seen a lot of his USWA work. I wouldn't put him anywhere near George Gulas, Mighty Zulu or Tiger Jeet Singh, even if I never liked him all that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 I'm really surprised at how down you are on Brian Christopher, especially since I'm pretty sure you have seen a lot of his USWA work. I wouldn't put him anywhere near George Gulas, Mighty Zulu or Tiger Jeet Singh, even if I never liked him all that much. Frankly for someone who calls himself 'Memphis Mark' and claims to have been watching since 1970, I find it ludicrous that he says Brian Christopher is the worst professional wrestler ever. So many talentless, green and clueless wrestlers have passed through the territory and Christopher is the worst of the lot? Rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 There's no reason to make it personal, I know that Memphis Mark HAS seen a ton of wrestling. He's entitled to his opinion without getting ripped over it. I didn't see this much reaction to people coming and naming Randy Orton, Kane, Tommy Dreamer or Bully Ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Until Yokozuna came along, I think Calhoun was easily the best of the 600-pound elephant types. There's a clipped match against Rikidozan that actually looks really good. Diff'rent strokes and all that but I too have a hard time seeing how Christopher qualifies as an all-time worst worker. He has a TV match with Jarrett that's probably one of the better matches in the history of the WMC studio, which should pretty much disqualify him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 There's no reason to make it personal, I know that Memphis Mark HAS seen a ton of wrestling. He's entitled to his opinion without getting ripped over it. I didn't see this much reaction to people coming and naming Randy Orton, Kane, Tommy Dreamer or Bully Ray. What's personal about it? I haven't seen Memphis Mark give one reason why he rates Christopher as the worst wrestler ever, in fact his post comes across as though he doesn't like him and as a result that makes him automatically the worst wrestler. Christopher is worse than the Blade Runners? Mr Universe? the Harlem Knights? Colin Scott? Big Black Dog? the Star Riders? Tojo Yamamoto? Jim Steele? To name a handful who have all passed through Memphis. So just because no-one criticised those who named Orton, Bully Ray etc it's as though Memphis Mark is being picked on? Christ, I don't know what's up with this board recently? Carry on, I'm done with this thread. Wouldn't want to upset someone by having, heaven forbid, a different opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchReedMark Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 I love Brian Christopher, Buff and Disco! All three! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheapshot Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 If there was no Brian Christopher there'd be no Brian Christopher Album. Brian Christopher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Disco was more than competent, and actively good at times. And he made the most out of a gimmick that had no legs. He would be in a worst potential bookers ever list however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Boogie Woogie Man Jimmy Valiant was an awesome character and wrestler who was the King of the Crockett mid card feuds that people were totally emotionally invested in. Valiant was awesome and you'd be a fool and a communist to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 I like Mark posting here but I agree with Milano that he really should explain how Brian Christopher is one of the worst wrestlers to ever come through those doors because Mark and I tend to like the same type of wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Bagwell stunk as a prolonged singles guy, he was pretty solid as a tag team wrestler on a few occasions. I think of him being in the same category as the likes of Billy Gunn and Bryan "Wrath/Adam Bomb" Clark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakla Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Do the people "nominating" Jimmy Valiant mostly have memories of him in the late 80s/early 90s in various promotions (such as Abrams UWF) when he had slimmed down to a WWE Diva-ish weight? That's most of my memories of him, but I assume he did something great at his peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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