Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

[pmo]

On 2/9/2023 at 4:11 PM, Robert S said:

I  am sure everybody has already seen it but just in case: those AI generated Gorilla Monsoon podcasts are great.

 

Nailed the voice, but needed more monsoon catch phrases like fountain of misinformation.

[pmo]

On 2/9/2023 at 4:11 PM, Robert S said:

I  am sure everybody has already seen it but just in case: those AI generated Gorilla Monsoon podcasts are great.

 

Nailed the voice, but needed more monsoon catch phrases like fountain of misinformation.

[sek69]

On 2/11/2023 at 11:55 AM, strobogo said:

Where does Jay White-O end up? TNA seems below him as his homebase, I feel like he gets lost in the shuffle in AEW and also is going to be 2 heel at best for a while for MJF's run. I do feel like he fits in the best in WWE, but also feel like he'd just be alternate brand Seth Rollins at any point in time, which probably isn't the worst thing to be.

Both AEW and WWE have the built in Bullet Club angles with former leaders/members.  It'll be interesting to see where he decides on.

I could see him (at least initially) doing what Ibushi is apparently doing and just checking off bucket list stuff before settling down. Or maybe he signs something with Impact for a baseline paycheck and does other indies for shits and giggles.

If he just wants to get the most money, I would think WWE would probably overpay just to make sure AEW doesn't get him. Hunter's a body guy yeah, but deep down he knows when someone is money and to not let the other guys get them without a fight.

[strobogo]

I think Jay White counts as a body guy. Dude is absolutely shredded. 

[JRH]

Maybe this belongs in the RIP Lanny Poffo thread, but I'm surprised that the WWE didnt acknowledge Lanny's death on any of their tv. He was there for quite a while, and you'd think being Randy Savage's brother they'd at least put an In Memorium graphic up there at least.

[Thrifty]

Surprised Hollywood never made a bigger effort to try and make Sycho Sid a movie star, he's still one of the most compelling screen presences I've ever seen. 

[Dale Wolfe]

 

 

[Dale Wolfe]

15 hours ago, Thrifty said:

Surprised Hollywood never made a bigger effort to try and make Sycho Sid a movie star, he's still one of the most compelling screen presences I've ever seen. 

I would happily watch several low rate horror films with sid as the villain 

[sek69]

13 hours ago, Dale Wolfe said:

 

 

The punchline here for those who didn't click through to read the replies is that Drew Barrymore would have been around 16 in 1991. Hopefully ol' Todd here was too. 

[Al]

A google search on the address suggests he's now 50. Bizarre approach but not the most terrible thing.

[Robert S]

4 hours ago, Al said:

A google search on the address suggests he's now 50. Bizarre approach but not the most terrible thing.

Yes, considering that people were looking for Traci Lords video all the time in the reader's section of the WON.

[NintendoLogic]

Other than Backlund, how many babyfaces have had successful title reigns after dethroning a long-term heel champion? It seems that long heel title reigns hinder the ability of other heels to get over at that level, leaving a dearth of strong heel challengers for the newly crowned babyface champion. That wasn't an issue for Backlund because the WWWF had an established business model of heel managers bringing in a revolving door of challengers for the champ to face. I suppose Cena also qualifies, but he was another special case as he switched brands after the JBL feud concluded, giving him a fresh set of opponents.

[MoS]

Does Batista count? 

Also Verne beat Bock to regain his title and had a long reign, but he had been champ before so probably not what you're looking for. 

[Migs]

It's a little bit hard to untangle this question from places being heel/babyface territories.

I'm struggling to think of even a decent long-term reign by a face in Crockett/WCW. The Sting reigns (both after Flair and after Hogan), the Goldberg run - they're pretty weak, but that might be less about what the heels did and more that the structure of the booking didn't support the shift.

Taz in ECW is a good example for your point, though - he wins the title and there's just literally no challengers for him because no one's been protected other than the Triple Threat and Justin Credible.

On the WWF/WWE side - it's a bit hard to find examples because there have been so few face reigns following long heel reigns, up until the last 10 years (at which point the booking of babyfaces generally has completely cratered).

[Embrodak]

Cody at least has Gunther, but they’d have to get the IC title off him first. I’d also be super into him having a program with Damien Priest, but I just know they’d have him fight Finn Balor in a snooze-fest instead.

[KawadaSmile]

Cody has Gunther, yeah - and it seems they'll be on opposing sides often, like Cena and Orton. Speaking of Randy,  he is also someone who could have an interesting dynamic versus Cody - not to mention other babyfaces like Rey Mysterio or even Sami Zayn (although on the case of the latter, it is riskier).

[sek69]

I grew up watching it and its largely what made me a lifelong fan, but a big drawback of NWA/JCP/Crockett booking is that there was never really anyone built up that could be a credible babyface champion. 

[Flyin' Brian]

54 minutes ago, sek69 said:

I grew up watching it and its largely what made me a lifelong fan, but a big drawback of NWA/JCP/Crockett booking is that there was never really anyone built up that could be a credible babyface champion. 

Yeah, pre WCW you pretty much had Dusty and Flair when he was a babyface in that category and that was it.

[sek69]

I think that's why tag team wrestling got popular enough that it could main event in JCP, you always had multiple viable contenders who could hold the belts. 

[Johnny Sorrow]

1 hour ago, sek69 said:

I grew up watching it and its largely what made me a lifelong fan, but a big drawback of NWA/JCP/Crockett booking is that there was never really anyone built up that could be a credible babyface champion. 

Magnum TA was . 

[sek69]

It would have been interesting to see if Magnum had gotten the belt, if it would have been more than a month or so run anyone not Ric Flair would get. 

[Embrodak]

1 hour ago, sek69 said:

I think that's why tag team wrestling got popular enough that it could main event in JCP, you always had multiple viable contenders who could hold the belts. 

Well that and it ruled. Haitch’s failure to revitalize the tag team division is my biggest disappointment thus far, in the realm of “things that could actually have happened”. Like I knew he wasn’t gonna fire the writers or change Kevin Dunn’s hyper-streamlined production and formatting, but credible tag teams seems like something he could have done, imo.

[sek69]

To be fair, they were doing the "Usos are having a legendary title run" when he took over, then the Bloodline caught fire and it would have been counterproductive to take the belts off them.

[KawadaSmile]

I think we are in a pretty decent era for tag teams, tbh. Usos have always been great, New Day still is around not only having main roster bangers but also helped up a rough NXT tag title scene, uniting Sheamus and Drew was a logical yet great decision, Street Profits are also very over, Imperium really improved as an overall act after Giovanni Vinci returned...

In terms of in-ring quality, it's great. It's not as absurdly over with the crowd as late 80s and early 90s, but I think they have done a decent job.

[Coffey]

I don't think that it's out of the realm of possibility that WWE could get FTR/The Revival back as well. Aren't their contracts up soon?