pmo Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 4:11 PM, Robert S said: I am sure everybody has already seen it but just in case: those AI generated Gorilla Monsoon podcasts are great. Nailed the voice, but needed more monsoon catch phrases like fountain of misinformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmo Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 4:11 PM, Robert S said: I am sure everybody has already seen it but just in case: those AI generated Gorilla Monsoon podcasts are great. Nailed the voice, but needed more monsoon catch phrases like fountain of misinformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 On 2/11/2023 at 11:55 AM, strobogo said: Where does Jay White-O end up? TNA seems below him as his homebase, I feel like he gets lost in the shuffle in AEW and also is going to be 2 heel at best for a while for MJF's run. I do feel like he fits in the best in WWE, but also feel like he'd just be alternate brand Seth Rollins at any point in time, which probably isn't the worst thing to be. Both AEW and WWE have the built in Bullet Club angles with former leaders/members. It'll be interesting to see where he decides on. I could see him (at least initially) doing what Ibushi is apparently doing and just checking off bucket list stuff before settling down. Or maybe he signs something with Impact for a baseline paycheck and does other indies for shits and giggles. If he just wants to get the most money, I would think WWE would probably overpay just to make sure AEW doesn't get him. Hunter's a body guy yeah, but deep down he knows when someone is money and to not let the other guys get them without a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 I think Jay White counts as a body guy. Dude is absolutely shredded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Maybe this belongs in the RIP Lanny Poffo thread, but I'm surprised that the WWE didnt acknowledge Lanny's death on any of their tv. He was there for quite a while, and you'd think being Randy Savage's brother they'd at least put an In Memorium graphic up there at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrifty Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Surprised Hollywood never made a bigger effort to try and make Sycho Sid a movie star, he's still one of the most compelling screen presences I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dale Wolfe Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 15 hours ago, Thrifty said: Surprised Hollywood never made a bigger effort to try and make Sycho Sid a movie star, he's still one of the most compelling screen presences I've ever seen. I would happily watch several low rate horror films with sid as the villain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Dale Wolfe said: The punchline here for those who didn't click through to read the replies is that Drew Barrymore would have been around 16 in 1991. Hopefully ol' Todd here was too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 A google search on the address suggests he's now 50. Bizarre approach but not the most terrible thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Al said: A google search on the address suggests he's now 50. Bizarre approach but not the most terrible thing. Yes, considering that people were looking for Traci Lords video all the time in the reader's section of the WON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 Other than Backlund, how many babyfaces have had successful title reigns after dethroning a long-term heel champion? It seems that long heel title reigns hinder the ability of other heels to get over at that level, leaving a dearth of strong heel challengers for the newly crowned babyface champion. That wasn't an issue for Backlund because the WWWF had an established business model of heel managers bringing in a revolving door of challengers for the champ to face. I suppose Cena also qualifies, but he was another special case as he switched brands after the JBL feud concluded, giving him a fresh set of opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 Does Batista count? Also Verne beat Bock to regain his title and had a long reign, but he had been champ before so probably not what you're looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 It's a little bit hard to untangle this question from places being heel/babyface territories. I'm struggling to think of even a decent long-term reign by a face in Crockett/WCW. The Sting reigns (both after Flair and after Hogan), the Goldberg run - they're pretty weak, but that might be less about what the heels did and more that the structure of the booking didn't support the shift. Taz in ECW is a good example for your point, though - he wins the title and there's just literally no challengers for him because no one's been protected other than the Triple Threat and Justin Credible. On the WWF/WWE side - it's a bit hard to find examples because there have been so few face reigns following long heel reigns, up until the last 10 years (at which point the booking of babyfaces generally has completely cratered). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 Cody at least has Gunther, but they’d have to get the IC title off him first. I’d also be super into him having a program with Damien Priest, but I just know they’d have him fight Finn Balor in a snooze-fest instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 Cody has Gunther, yeah - and it seems they'll be on opposing sides often, like Cena and Orton. Speaking of Randy, he is also someone who could have an interesting dynamic versus Cody - not to mention other babyfaces like Rey Mysterio or even Sami Zayn (although on the case of the latter, it is riskier). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 I grew up watching it and its largely what made me a lifelong fan, but a big drawback of NWA/JCP/Crockett booking is that there was never really anyone built up that could be a credible babyface champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' Brian Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 54 minutes ago, sek69 said: I grew up watching it and its largely what made me a lifelong fan, but a big drawback of NWA/JCP/Crockett booking is that there was never really anyone built up that could be a credible babyface champion. Yeah, pre WCW you pretty much had Dusty and Flair when he was a babyface in that category and that was it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 I think that's why tag team wrestling got popular enough that it could main event in JCP, you always had multiple viable contenders who could hold the belts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, sek69 said: I grew up watching it and its largely what made me a lifelong fan, but a big drawback of NWA/JCP/Crockett booking is that there was never really anyone built up that could be a credible babyface champion. Magnum TA was . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 It would have been interesting to see if Magnum had gotten the belt, if it would have been more than a month or so run anyone not Ric Flair would get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, sek69 said: I think that's why tag team wrestling got popular enough that it could main event in JCP, you always had multiple viable contenders who could hold the belts. Well that and it ruled. Haitch’s failure to revitalize the tag team division is my biggest disappointment thus far, in the realm of “things that could actually have happened”. Like I knew he wasn’t gonna fire the writers or change Kevin Dunn’s hyper-streamlined production and formatting, but credible tag teams seems like something he could have done, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 To be fair, they were doing the "Usos are having a legendary title run" when he took over, then the Bloodline caught fire and it would have been counterproductive to take the belts off them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 I think we are in a pretty decent era for tag teams, tbh. Usos have always been great, New Day still is around not only having main roster bangers but also helped up a rough NXT tag title scene, uniting Sheamus and Drew was a logical yet great decision, Street Profits are also very over, Imperium really improved as an overall act after Giovanni Vinci returned... In terms of in-ring quality, it's great. It's not as absurdly over with the crowd as late 80s and early 90s, but I think they have done a decent job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 I don't think that it's out of the realm of possibility that WWE could get FTR/The Revival back as well. Aren't their contracts up soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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