El-P Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 So… Orton vs Bray or Orton vs Cena ? Major yawn to both. Speaking about yawn, HHH vs Rollins. Want to see that Trip intro though. Roman Reigns vs Zombitaker. Braun vs….. no idea. Lesnar destroying Goldy (that's the least he could do) Charlotte vs Asuka. Yeah, I know it won't happen, but a four-way cluster for the women would be such a disapointment and unfair treatment. ……... Coming off this poor Rumble, things are so not exciting.
El-P Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 No. Well, actually I did watch the go-home SD before the Rumble and man, was that nothing or what. A short JTTS battle royal won by the awful Mojo Riley. A neverending typical my-turn your-turn promo segment with Cena & AJ (straight out of every WWE interview segment from the last 17 years). A terrible "comedy" segment with Carmella and Ellsworth doing "Pretty Woman". A non woman's match. Wow. Yeah, felt like the greatest pro-wrestling TV show ever or something. Maybe it was just a bad show, but it felt like every terrible WWE TV I've stumble upon over the years. I have zero interest in WWE TV format, it's the last thing I want to watch even with the great french announcers making things way easier. I'll keep on cherry picking matches.
Grimmas Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 No. Well, actually I did watch the go-home SD before the Rumble and man, was that nothing or what. A short JTTS battle royal won by the awful Mojo Riley. A neverending typical my-turn your-turn promo segment with Cena & AJ (straight out of every WWE interview segment from the last 17 years). A terrible "comedy" segment with Carmella and Ellsworth doing "Pretty Woman". A non woman's match. Wow. Yeah, felt like the greatest pro-wrestling TV show ever or something. Maybe it was just a bad show, but it felt like every terrible WWE TV I've stumble upon over the years. I have zero interest in WWE TV format, it's the last thing I want to watch even with the great french announcers making things way easier. I'll keep on cherry picking matches. Yeah, so Orton-Wyatt would seem underwhelming then. It's been a great built up story for many of months now, something you wouldn't totally get without actually watching the show.
KawadaSmile Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 If you told me that Orton vs Cena headlining Wrestlemania was a thing seven months ago, I would indeed be annoyed by the idea. But when you have Orton at his most interesting since at least 2009, and Cena being his usual amazing self, things change. I get that for some people who don't watch the product on a weekly basis the idea might seem a turnoff, but considering how well they've kept Orton and Cena away since the brand split, it's going to provide an interesting program, to say the least.
Stiva Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 At this point, I'm more interested in how the pre-show is going to look and just how long it's going to be.
El-P Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 Yeah, so Orton-Wyatt would seem underwhelming then. It's been a great built up story for many of months now, something you wouldn't totally get without actually watching the show. Please, don't drop the "SD is such a complex and compelling show you have to watch to get how great this feud actually is" on me. I've seen everything by now. It's Randy Orton & Bray Wyatt. Giant Baba, Riki Choshu, Kevin Sullivan, Paul Heyman, Bill Watts all in together at best best of their booking trickery couldn't make me care about them. Orton has been a black hole for a decade plus. Wyatt is the new black hole. This match is the supernova of dullness and suck. Actually, old-ass Taker being punched in the face by Roman Reigns while a stadium shits on the match sounds quite appealing. I hope Roman gets over actually, as Taker has overstayed his welcome (well, his comebacks) for a few years now. Turn the fucker heel already. Seeing Cena work his magic was such a cruel reminder that Reigns just isn't all of that and a bag of potato chips.
Grimmas Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 Orton and Bray were black holes until they teamed and it's been amazing. It's not yhe best feud of all time, but its pretty good and revitalized both.
Jimmy James Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 Seeing Taker was sad, and I hope he gets in shape for Mania. The Shane match was dumb as shit but I still think his series with Lesnar in the summer of 2015 was great.
supersonic Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 Meltzer given impression that Samoa Joe's WM33 opponent will not necessarily be "good news." Rollins vs. Joe is for Fast Lane. Shane McMahon vs. AJ Styles has been talked about for WM33. No finalization yet. In addition to Rollins vs. Joe, Kevin Owens will defend the Universal Title against Goldberg at Fast Lane. Sonic's note: Pretty obvious that Lesnar will dethrone Goldberg for the Universal TItle at WM33.
Jimmy Redman Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 Random thought, did we ever get Joe vs Generico on the indies? Surely we must have.
supersonic Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 Singles encounter didn't happen until s year ago. I was not a fan of their lack of chemistry.
Strummer Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 Dave said on WOR that Cena's opponent at mania will "not be good news". I'm thinking Corbin. I mean I like him and they could have a good match but that wording from Dave specifically makes me think it's him. Maybe Ziggler?
Grimmas Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 Dave said on WOR that Cena's opponent at mania will "not be good news". I'm thinking Corbin. I mean I like him and they could have a good match but that wording from Dave specifically makes me think it's him. Maybe Ziggler? Obviously he meant Wade Barrett is returning.
JaymeFuture Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 Can't remember where I heard it (great source, I know), but the two ideas I've seen banded around the last few days were Cena/Corbin and Cena/Nikki Vs. Miz/Maryse
FMKK Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 Dave said on WOR that Cena's opponent at mania will "not be good news". I'm thinking Corbin. I mean I like him and they could have a good match but that wording from Dave specifically makes me think it's him. Maybe Ziggler? Dave for some reason is loathe to give Corbin any credit for improving. Seems like a bit of a weak match at this point for Cena though considering he was supposedly slated to work Undertaker. Cena beat him clean on TV a couple of weeks ago too. But I think they could do something surprisingly good.
supersonic Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 Cena vs. Strowman? Perhaps Strowman helps Wyatt win the Chamber match by taking out Cena? (Strowman explains that it was his way of showing appreciation for the man that brought him to WWE.)
KawadaSmile Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 It's not even that Cena/Corbin was bad, but the finish felt a bit rushed. Given how they barely had Cena celebrating after winning, I would think they had to pack things up due to time constraints. I think that Corbin, with the proper build and time, can have a great 2007-esque match against Cena, really. The End of Days has never been kicked out of, so there's already a story into the match. As for Miz/Maryse vs Cena/Nikki, I wouldn't mind it either. Wrestlemania always was a more spectacle-oriented event, and a fun tag match like that can work very well, specially when the 4 people involved have some nice stuff going on for them.
goc Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 Does Meltzer enjoy ANYTHING in WWE? Does he actually watch Smackdown & pay attention? If so, not sure how he could say Cena vs. Corbin is "not good news" especially since he's always complaining about WWE not using part timers to put over new guys at WrestleMania. Corbin just put on 2 great performances in December against Kalisto at TLC and in the 3-way title match on Smackdown, he's good. Even if Corbin loses to Cena just having him in that high profile of a match would be big for his career. Cena/Nikki vs. Miz/Maryse would also be good and reward 3 people who have been a big part in making Smackdown the better show since the split (and use Cena to make the match more important)
Childs Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 Does Meltzer enjoy ANYTHING in WWE? Does he actually watch Smackdown & pay attention? If so, not sure how he could say Cena vs. Corbin is "not good news" especially since he's always complaining about WWE not using part timers to put over new guys at WrestleMania. Corbin just put on 2 great performances in December against Kalisto at TLC and in the 3-way title match on Smackdown, he's good. Even if Corbin loses to Cena just having him in that high profile of a match would be big for his career. Cena/Nikki vs. Miz/Maryse would also be good and reward 3 people who have been a big part in making Smackdown the better show since the split (and use Cena to make the match more important) I don't know. I get what you're saying, but I wouldn't be excited about either of those as a featured match at Mania. Of the two, I'd prefer Cena-Corbin because at least that could have a greater point.
Loss Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 I listened. Dave does not know who Cena's opponent is. All he said was that his WWE contact told him it's not good news. That wasn't his interpretation of the opponent, that was someone who knows the opponent telling Dave their interpretation of it.
Migs Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 Does Meltzer enjoy ANYTHING in WWE? Does he actually watch Smackdown & pay attention? If so, not sure how he could say Cena vs. Corbin is "not good news" especially since he's always complaining about WWE not using part timers to put over new guys at WrestleMania. Corbin just put on 2 great performances in December against Kalisto at TLC and in the 3-way title match on Smackdown, he's good. Even if Corbin loses to Cena just having him in that high profile of a match would be big for his career. Cena/Nikki vs. Miz/Maryse would also be good and reward 3 people who have been a big part in making Smackdown the better show since the split (and use Cena to make the match more important) Cena/Nikki v. Miz/Maryse would make for some good wrestling TV and good reality TV. Win-win.
Coffey Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 Corbin just put on [a] great performances [at] December against Kalisto at TLC That match was awesome & Meltzer gave it 2 3/4 stars...but on the same PPV gave Styles Vs. Ambrose 4 1/2. Dude is just about as far away from my opinions as can be.
Matt D Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 I feel like Cena vs Shane might be the biggest money match they can put on right now. Is that the craziest notion given the last year?
Cap Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 I will watch and I am really trying not to be down on the rumble or mania, but I am really deflated about it. I am not a huge fan of how things started getting laid out at the Rumble. It just doesn't hold my attention and most of what I have read here and there about rumors seem even less interesting. Lots of sporadic, hot shot booking if things play out in any of the ways the interwebs say they will.
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