Mad Dog Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 You also have the benefit of people not sitting there waiting for you to say something they can get upset about as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shodate Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 1000% that Anyone pretending Dave said something offensive there is playacting. The Twitter reactions are so weird.....How in any way can that be interpreted as something other than "segregation is bad, and holding another segregated show for the minority group won't cancel out that segregation is bad"? People are actually saying that it's racist? yes indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Dave needs to stop Twitter. He's not good at it. When a black guy basically says " Hey man, I know what you're trying to get at, and I see what you're trying to get across, but shut up, white guy", gets met with more Twitter arguments from Dave? For those of you not living in America or watching the news, racial issues are really sensitive right now, thanks to having a white suprematist as President. I love Dave, get him off Twitter. Twitter isn't journalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Dave needs to stop Twitter. He's not good at it. When a black guy basically says " Hey man, I know what you're trying to get at, and I see what you're trying to get across, but shut up, white guy", gets met with more Twitter arguments from Dave? For those of you not living in America or watching the news, racial issues are really sensitive right now, thanks to having a white suprematist as President. I love Dave, get him off Twitter. Agreed. If he thinks his twitter is good for getting subs to the WON, I really disagree that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Coil Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 My favourite was Kevin Nash telling Alex Shelley about how he drew 29,000 to MSG and Shelley asking "Does the Garden even hold 29,000?" and Nash responding "... it did that night." TNA Kevin Nash is my favorite Kevin Nash. I remember him joking around on screen about how great he was at getting paid to do nothing. His X Division stuff is underrated imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 TNA Kevin Nash is my favorite Kevin Nash. I remember him joking around on screen about how great he was at getting paid to do nothing. His X Division stuff is underrated imo. Agreed. As a character, Nash in 2007/2008 was pretty fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Kevin Nash invented Twitter back when it was 180 characters and under. When it used to be Bob Backlund regulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 Dave needs to stop Twitter. He's not good at it. When a black guy basically says " Hey man, I know what you're trying to get at, and I see what you're trying to get across, but shut up, white guy", gets met with more Twitter arguments from Dave? For those of you not living in America or watching the news, racial issues are really sensitive right now, thanks to having a white suprematist as President. I love Dave, get him off Twitter. Twitter isn't journalism. I'm guessing from what Dave's said about twitter, he agrees with you that it's not journalism. That's why he'll act like a twat on twitter. It's as much self-promotion as anything else. He's acting like wrestlers might in shoot interviews. He'll tell facts and correct stories. But he'll also rustle people, state things in a way where he puts himself over, and encourage people to have strong reactions to what he says. Does it work? Who knows. He's got the numbers. If they have gone up, maybe there are alternate causes (e.g. I do think the wrestling podcasting boom has probably helped the observer.) edit: it might help his social media numbers though, let's face it...hot takers get more traction on social media, and I wonder if that helps him get higher ad rates for f4w.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 He might just enjoy getting people worked up and Twitter is an easy avenue to get a few laughs at people freaking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 He might just enjoy getting people worked up and Twitter is an easy avenue to get a few laughs at people freaking out. Honestly, I would be Metlz, I would totally troll the idiotic Twitter crowd to no end and watch them get ulcers over nothing. Plus it's so damn easy anyway, almost too easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 He might just enjoy getting people worked up and Twitter is an easy avenue to get a few laughs at people freaking out. Honestly, I would be Metlz, I would totally troll the idiotic Twitter crowd to no end and watch them get ulcers over nothing. Plus it's so damn easy anyway, almost too easy. It is. Think about the hours of amusement you could get for almost no effort at all. You don't even have to try most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 Dave once said on the F4W Board that he embraced his confrontational online persona a few years ago when he heard from a bunch of his son's friends that they all think it's cool when he owns people on Twitter. So yes, Dave acts the way he does because it impressed a bunch of middle schoolers. Well, that is how you draw money in the business, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Dave once said on the F4W Board that he embraced his confrontational online persona a few years ago when he heard from a bunch of his son's friends that they all think it's cool when he owns people on Twitter. So yes, Dave acts the way he does because it impressed a bunch of middle schoolers. Well, that is how you draw money in the business, isn't it? I could be wrong, but I believe Dave has also said marketing people have told him that the persona gimmick is a way to boost social media numbers. I mean...given what twitter is and looking at Dave's follower count vs. any other wrestling media's follower counts, I'm not sure that's wrong. If Dave tried to replicate his current newsletter voice on twitter, I don't think he'd get as much attention or as many eyeballs. I'd prefer if he did that though. But I'm sure what you wrote is part of the equation too. Dave's sometimes talked about how he's confident about verbally dunking on people, but would occasionally get nervous before having some people from the wrestling business on his show, e.g. Bobby Heenan. Twitter is just another format for that, and people more people to dunk on, if you feel like doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Random aside. Does anyone still get the WON in print? I really want one for nostalgia but it's so fucking expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...TG Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Random aside. Does anyone still get the WON in print? I really want one for nostalgia but it's so fucking expensive. That's how I still get it. All Dave really cares about is writing the Observer like he's done it for 30 years, so I'd rather read it the way it's intended. If they had PDF versions of the print edition, or the issues were properly indexed and formatted for the web, I'd consider it. The rest of the website isn't a value-add for me - none of the podcasts are particularly interesting, what little bit of their message board I've seen seems like a wreddit you have to pay for, and their web template is awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 I think it gets more subscribers, but it's such short-term thinking. Dave talked in the Lance Russell bio about how they could have drawn a house off of a heel attacking Lance since the audience loved him so much, but they wanted to keep him credible. So, just saying ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 I know pre Twitter, I would take any news from Dave at face value. Post Twitter, I need two other sources. It could be Dave is an ass. You can see glimmers of Twitter Dave in old 80's Observers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Coil Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Dave has said before that he is careful with who he gets into verbals with. He didn't actually say his name but pretty much everyone could tell he was talking about Kevin Nash one time. It's something that I get but also kind of bothers me when it comes to Dave and Nash. He said he would never get into a verbal with him.. so stays committed to bizarre half-attacks from the safety of his radio show. The WON/F4W crowd are all kinda like that. The most bizarre was when Dave saw Nash posing after he had worked out and got on Twitter and, while never mentioning Kevin, said how ridiculous it was at his age.. this was not long before Dave was posing with the PWG boys and showing off his biceps and shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Random aside. Does anyone still get the WON in print? I really want one for nostalgia but it's so fucking expensive. That's how I still get it. All Dave really cares about is writing the Observer like he's done it for 30 years, so I'd rather read it the way it's intended. If they had PDF versions of the print edition, or the issues were properly indexed and formatted for the web, I'd consider it. The rest of the website isn't a value-add for me - none of the podcasts are particularly interesting, what little bit of their message board I've seen seems like a wreddit you have to pay for, and their web template is awful. I still get it in print for exactly these reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 The archives kind of interest me but I might never get to them. I've had subs in the past and I used to love that weekly arrival and just how much was packed in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riderman Hongo Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 I Have always thought that Dave is very trustworthy as any journalist when it comes to what he reports, he is human he makes mistakes but what human does not he is the most trusted journalists in this medium in my eyes. The main thing he gets called upon is his opinions as the old saying goes opinions are like assholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Is it true that he said Bryan should leave WWE or is that just twitter drama? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Rock Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I think he basically said Bryan was just another guy now in WWE rather than a top star and that led to folks saying he should leave. I could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 What Boss Rock said and according to reddit he also said sometimes he thinks Bryan should walk in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheapshot Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 On the latest WOR he suggested Bryan leaving in September wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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