sek69 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Posted June 16, 2011 I think the foodstamp story is a little overblown because Jesse Neal was hurt and out for a while, and in TNA if you don't work you don't get paid. Now that still is scummy for a company trying to make itself the better option to WWE for fans and wrestlers alike, but people are making it sound like his base pay qualified them for welfare.
Jingus Posted June 16, 2011 Report Posted June 16, 2011 He hasn't been out long, though. Ink Inc worked at Sacrifice, which was only a month ago. So either he hasn't been careful with his money; or more likely, TNA was paying him so little that missing a couple weeks' worth of salary was enough to practically bankrupt him. Especially considering that he's got a big advantage over most other injured TNA wrestlers, since he's a military veteran and gets free healthcare.
MikeCampbell Posted June 16, 2011 Report Posted June 16, 2011 Aren't the big names of TNA (Sting, Angle, Hogan, etc)'s salaries covered by Spike TV?
Jingus Posted June 16, 2011 Report Posted June 16, 2011 Yeah, at least in part. I wonder exactly what TNA's policy about paying medical bills is, regarding the top guys. Do they foot the bill for Hogan, Angle, and Sting getting their various surgeries? It would be typical of them to do that, buying healthcare only for the guys who can already afford it. But I'd be interested to find out the details of how they handle that sort of thing. They might just say "hey, we're already paying you millions of dollars per year, just deal with it" or maybe go halfsies, or who knows.
Loss Posted June 16, 2011 Author Report Posted June 16, 2011 Whatever makes the least sense, costs the most money and would be the most infuriating, they'd probably double down on.
Wahoos Leg Posted June 17, 2011 Report Posted June 17, 2011 He hasn't been out long, though. Ink Inc worked at Sacrifice, which was only a month ago. So either he hasn't been careful with his money; or more likely, TNA was paying him so little that missing a couple weeks' worth of salary was enough to practically bankrupt him. Especially considering that he's got a big advantage over most other injured TNA wrestlers, since he's a military veteran and gets free healthcare. To be fair, how many people out there live paycheck to paycheck? Bunches. Ninety percent of us working stiffs are one bad break away from food stamps.
Jingus Posted June 17, 2011 Report Posted June 17, 2011 True, but this isn't some guy manning a cash register 9-5 that we're talking about here. It's a (theoretical) celebrity, risking life and limb in the ring, on a nationally televised program which is viewed by over a million people every week. And they've got twin money marks in the form of Panda and Spike funding this thing, and the main eventers are all millionaires. Yet apparently their lower-half employees don't take home more money than they would at McDonalds, even including PPV payoffs.
MJH Posted June 17, 2011 Report Posted June 17, 2011 But it's a chance to get exposure on an international level! Â Bullshit aside, short of being offered a lot of money upfront, I don't know why anyone would want to work for TNA.
Johnny Sorrow Posted June 17, 2011 Report Posted June 17, 2011 But it's a chance to get exposure on an international level!  Bullshit aside, short of being offered a lot of money upfront, I don't know why anyone would want to work for TNA. Delirious doesn't From the latest Observer Hunter Johnston (Delirious), who is the booker here, (ROH) did get a TNA offer recently, which he turned down. Johnston didn’t even know if those at TNA who contacted him were even aware he was the booker here.
GSR Posted June 17, 2011 Report Posted June 17, 2011 Getting into WCW TV from 1989, and I get a kick out pf a lot of little things : the infamous Randy Hogan jobber who looked like Hogan with Savage's kneepads and boots; Dave Heath (aka Gangrel) as a young and fat jobber squashed by Abby. Despite the numerous squash matches, watching those old NWA episodes is so much fun nowadays. Great promos galore (Flair, Sullivan, RW, Cornette, Heyman), cool squashes from the Varsity Club (Sullivan was always an awesome squash match worker) and the Road Warriors, a few really good competitive matches. Why isn't wrestling like this anymore ?...Keep an eye out for Billy Gunn jobbing to the Road Warriors as Kip Montana.
El-P Posted June 17, 2011 Report Posted June 17, 2011 Getting into WCW TV from 1989, and I get a kick out pf a lot of little things : the infamous Randy Hogan jobber who looked like Hogan with Savage's kneepads and boots; Dave Heath (aka Gangrel) as a young and fat jobber squashed by Abby. Despite the numerous squash matches, watching those old NWA episodes is so much fun nowadays. Great promos galore (Flair, Sullivan, RW, Cornette, Heyman), cool squashes from the Varsity Club (Sullivan was always an awesome squash match worker) and the Road Warriors, a few really good competitive matches. Why isn't wrestling like this anymore ?...Keep an eye out for Billy Gunn jobbing to the Road Warriors as Kip Montana. I will !
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted June 17, 2011 Report Posted June 17, 2011 http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/667145...itol-punishment  I've always enjoyed The Masked Man's "Dead Wrestler of the Week" columns for Deadspin. Looks like he's also contributing to Bill Simmons' new Grantland site.
Sean Liska Posted June 17, 2011 Report Posted June 17, 2011 The Masked Man's pieces on Deadspin have been as well-written as any wrestling writing you can find. I'm really looking forward to his work on Grantland.
JerryvonKramer Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Quick question: where is the atomic drop meant to impact? Â I mean is the small of the back/ ass meant to connect with the knee or not? Something I've never been sure of.
rovert Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 From the Creative Recall blog:  So apparently Smackdown has a new lead writer in Ed Koskey. Ed was moved from NXT to Smackdown. I actually really like Ed and think he is a really good guy but I just don’t understand the philosophy that Vince imposes on the creative staff. People are put in positions based on seniority as opposed to creative ability. Ed is extremely creative but he has also been in the company for 10 years. WWE needs a fresh coat of paint and the same guys put in different positions won’t give that feel. Although this move is great news for ECW/NXT alum currently on the Smackdown roster. This is a pretty interesting piece of news for those who listen to Dave Lagana's podcast or have read about the dynamic of the Smackdown creative team - Hayes not listening to ideas and those under him only creating copy for him as a result. That's before you move onto gaff's legit the Mark Henry incident, singing at the HHH-Steph wedding and the plane ride from hell.
Bob Morris Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Quick question: where is the atomic drop meant to impact? Â I mean is the small of the back/ ass meant to connect with the knee or not? Something I've never been sure of. It's supposed to impact the spine. Basically, you get your tailbone rattled and it hurts. Â I suppose the reason it's not done as much is because too many wrestlers just don't know how to sell it. Case in point: Scott Hall, who always acts like it hurt his crotch.
JerryvonKramer Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 So is the knee meant to connect or not?
MJH Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Yes, the knee hits the tailbone. Have you ever jumped up and landed on your ass? It hurts.
JerryvonKramer Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Yeah. It really does. Thanks for clearing this up. Was always one of those moves I could never understand how it was meant to hurt because, especially in the WWF, the knee was never even close to even looking like it connected.
MJH Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 The belly-to-back version (reverse or regular?) was always better for being more apparent in what it was doing and looking less like a foul.
Log Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 I suppose the reason it's not done as much is because too many wrestlers just don't know how to sell it. The selling of an atomic drop is really a lost art. Rick Rude was one of the best at it.
JerryvonKramer Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 You're right, Rude is awesome at selling the atomic drop. Â I tell you who else was: Honky Tonk Man.
KrisZ Posted June 20, 2011 Report Posted June 20, 2011 Mauro Ranallo & Dave Lagana marking for each other while kissing Jim Ross' ass on Twitter during tonight's PPV is hilarious.
KrisZ Posted June 20, 2011 Report Posted June 20, 2011 Is DVDVR showing having an identity threat for anyone else. Norton360 has the big red ! going
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