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I did like how Dave didn't make it clear that he was linking to softcore fetish porn on the Observer website:

 

--Lacey Von Erich is not done with wrestling after all. She's at http://www.ringdivashop.com/catalog/produc...roducts_id=2264 I wonder what Fritz Von Erich would think of this if he was still alive. Not that I have any clue how Fritz Von Erich would think of anything.

I gotta think this ranks pretty low on the list of scummy things a Von Erich has done.

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I did like how Dave didn't make it clear that he was linking to softcore fetish porn on the Observer website:

 

--Lacey Von Erich is not done with wrestling after all. She's at http://www.ringdivashop.com/catalog/produc...roducts_id=2264 I wonder what Fritz Von Erich would think of this if he was still alive. Not that I have any clue how Fritz Von Erich would think of anything.

I gotta think this ranks pretty low on the list of scummy things a Von Erich has done.

 

 

I would think Fritz would be disappointed that she didn't turn her custody dispute over her son into an angle in TNA.

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Re: Bagwell/Scorpio, it was a fun combination. You can't, even for a moment, fail to mention just how over Scorpio was with the Center Stage crowd. It was an Impact Zone type situation where much of the crowd were the same people every week and they didn't represent the majority of the WCW fanbase (which is fun later in the year when Ron Simmons hits Clashes/PPVs and tries to do the same sort of hand motions and chants that he usually was super over with and the crowd only half responds). Basically, so far as I can tell, Watts mobilized a black audience with the Ron Simmons push and it made for a really hot crowd. Bagwell seemed out of place dancing to Scorpio's music (And he had the EVERYBODY, HERE COMES 2 COLD SCORPIO! theme too). Granted, he was way more natural than the Cole Twins when they came out to dance to it after every match over a few week period. (The Cole Twins were super over too and I think it was by association).

 

They were a great team, though, because the crowd was so behind Scorpio and he had great hot tag offense. Bagwell made for a good face in peril and there were decent heel tag teams for them to go up against who knew how to ramp up the heat for the tag. And Bagwell's Fisherman's suplex is highly underrated.

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I finally got around to watching Ring Roasts III with Jim Cornette. Just as a warning, do not watch it. It is not good. It is not funny. It is terrible and pathetic. I genuinely felt bad for damn near everyone there as they were bombing so hard. Plus Amy Lee I guess in the Lisa Lampanelli role, just kept cussing and trying to cut people off. It was excruciatingly painful. ABORT!

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I finally got around to watching Ring Roasts III with Jim Cornette. Just as a warning, do not watch it. It is not good. It is not funny. It is terrible and pathetic. I genuinely felt bad for damn near everyone there as they were bombing so hard. Plus Amy Lee I guess in the Lisa Lampanelli role, just kept cussing and trying to cut people off. It was excruciatingly painful. ABORT!

Yeah SMW Fan Week this was not.

 

I can tell you first hand that Missy Hyatt was very upset at how badly it went.

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Anyone else kind of like Vicious and Delicious in 1997 WCW? I loved how Norton would completely no sell Bagwell's gyrating and showboating and stick to kicking ass

One of the best examples of a team that casual fans of the time period just loved. I had a lot of casual-watch friends that thought they were hillarious and marked out whenever they came on.

 

I liked them.

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A good friend of mine is a casual fan. Apparently he tuned in tonight at some point and I get a text from him about half way through the Bryan/Regal match that just said "this match is great!" I've had this stuff happen before which sort of puts the lie to the notion that only us super smarty internet fans notice and/or give a shit about stuff like that.

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I finally got around to watching Ring Roasts III with Jim Cornette. Just as a warning, do not watch it. It is not good. It is not funny. It is terrible and pathetic. I genuinely felt bad for damn near everyone there as they were bombing so hard. Plus Amy Lee I guess in the Lisa Lampanelli role, just kept cussing and trying to cut people off. It was excruciatingly painful. ABORT!

I watched it and enjoyed it, for the most part. I'll agree that Amy Lee was horrible. She said herself (over and over) that she was drunk on Jack Daniels. I think the problem was more with the crowd, than with the pannel. The roast was filmed at a legends convention. So I'm guessing that the bulk of the people there were specifically there for the convention and probably didn't know exactly what they were attending. Mick Foley had the same problem last year when Terry Funk got roasted.

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A good friend of mine is a casual fan. Apparently he tuned in tonight at some point and I get a text from him about half way through the Bryan/Regal match that just said "this match is great!" I've had this stuff happen before which sort of puts the lie to the notion that only us super smarty internet fans notice and/or give a shit about stuff like that.

I remember when I first got big into tape trading and what have you, and I was kinda naturally driven to show off all my cool foreign stuff to my casual friends. Brought one over to my house and showed him the "These Days" 10-man, as he was a big mark for Kaientai's "EVIL!/INDEED!" shtick at the time, and I thought he'd appreciate seeing what they could do when they could really cut loose in the ring. His exact words to me were "If wrestling were like this in America, the ratings would be so high." Bear in mind, this is late 2000/early 2001, when the ratings for WWF programming were about the highest they'd ever been.

 

Obviously, that's a very different type of match than Bryan/Regal (I assume...haven't seen Bryan/Regal yet, but guessing they didn't do a '96 MPro style match), but part of what makes the guys we think of as great workers great workers is their ability to tell a compelling story in the ring, to get across their characters through their work, to establish a meaningful conflict with their opponents that - backed by the aforementioned character establishment - gives you a reason to care about what you're seeing, and to just plain do cool shit that makes people stand up and take notice. That's stuff any fan, including the casual ones, should be reacting to. I've heard the crowd reaction to Bryan's matches described as being similar to the crowd reaction to the London/Kendrick tags of some years ago - the crowd doesn't exactly explode for them when they first show up for one reason or another, but by the time the match is over, they're rabid. Good workers make you care about their matches, even if you weren't predisposed to going into them, and I think that goes for casual fans as much as it goes for any of us.

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Watching Bulldogs v Rougeaus from Summerslam '88. It's a decent match with some nice back and forth - I am enjoying it.

 

I am confused a bit, though. The crowd seems to pop for the Bulldogs, so they must be the Faces. But the way they work, especially in the early minutes, is very much as bully heels working over the FIP. Am I just projecting what I know about these guys into my interpretation of their work? Or am I reading it right, that they work as assholes while still being the good guys? I guess the same could often be said about Hogan and whipping people with his belt.

 

Also, DK literally stood up on his neck at one point. It looked scary.

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Watching Bulldogs v Rougeaus from Summerslam '88. It's a decent match with some nice back and forth - I am enjoying it.

 

I am confused a bit, though. The crowd seems to pop for the Bulldogs, so they must be the Faces. But the way they work, especially in the early minutes, is very much as bully heels working over the FIP. Am I just projecting what I know about these guys into my interpretation of their work? Or am I reading it right, that they work as assholes while still being the good guys? I guess the same could often be said about Hogan and whipping people with his belt.

 

Also, DK literally stood up on his neck at one point. It looked scary.

I'd have to re-watch the match as I haven't seen it in a year or two. But there's significant backstory as the Rougeaus and Bulldogs did NOT get along backstage in the slightest. Dynamite Kid in his book said he flat out refused to job to the Rougeaus. Not long after this match Jacques sucker punched Dynamite in the locker room doing some damage to his face.
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Something I've been meaning to ask about: every now and then an old-school guy will talk about fights with fans and mention popping/scooping the guy's eyeball out. It's said so casually but it seems absurdly overboard for a fistfight, I feel like something is missing, ie. it's just like Vader vs Hansen and the eye gets put in place. But still... kinda sociopathic unless your life is in danger.

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Something I've been meaning to ask about: every now and then an old-school guy will talk about fights with fans and mention popping/scooping the guy's eyeball out. It's said so casually but it seems absurdly overboard for a fistfight, I feel like something is missing, ie. it's just like Vader vs Hansen and the eye gets put in place. But still... kinda sociopathic unless your life is in danger.

Dunno Ditch, traditionally people are told to go for the eyes or the balls in a confrontation.

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I think the Shawn Michaels theme music is the worst theme music ever used by a wrestler for any length of time. It was especially stupid post-comeback when he had nothing to do with that persona anymore.

 

Hearing the Sherri version makes me remember how it was written with the idea of being overly annoying to begin with.

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