Resident Evil Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 If I can swerve the discussion of this angle, it's a real shame that Lawler's WWE past hasn't come back to haunt him in this feud. For instance, Michael Cole could have put together a video package of all the major stuff Jerry did as a heel (ruining Bret's KOTR coronation and insulting his family and making a big scene over Jake Roberts' alcoholism come to mind). Would have given the angle as much depth as using the family has been. WWE likes to avoid their own history when convienent though I must say they are a LOT better at remembering than they were in the past. I am guessing they don't want to hurt some of Lawler's face heat so I don't think Cole would be allowed to do something like that. In any other angle Lawler could be in, yeah I see your point. But this works for me on a level of duality, because Michael is basically doing the same things Lawler did, and Heenan before Jerry. One way it could have worked is if Cole used that opportunity to say how he admired those things in Jerry and was severely let down when he "softened up", but didn't let it come to the surface until recently. And yeah, their amnesia to certain things really bother me like they do anything else, but I'll also agree they are better at it now than before. That's why I like the Punk/Orton angle because it is Randy's heel antics coming home to roost. Yeah, if Cole were to do that, than that is the way he should bring it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 If I can swerve the discussion of this angle, it's a real shame that Lawler's WWE past hasn't come back to haunt him in this feud. For instance, Michael Cole could have put together a video package of all the major stuff Jerry did as a heel (ruining Bret's KOTR coronation and insulting his family and making a big scene over Jake Roberts' alcoholism come to mind). Would have given the angle as much depth as using the family has been. WWE did that a few times before with Shawn, I'm specifically remembering during his time teaming with Cena before WM 23, there was a video on RAW of all the various times he'd turned on partners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 K, I got a question about Super Strong Machine, Tenyru and Choshu. In the 90s, how many matches did each of these guys lose? I don't want to know against who as even though I watched a lot of 90s puroresu I haven't seen everything. I am just curious how many matches they lost. I have an approximate idea but want to get an accurate one. I'm guessing JDW knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 The greatest US Tag worker ever from a loose kayfabe perspective has to be either Arn or Eaton, no? Eaton had, at least, the teams with Koko, Condrey, Lane, Arn, Benoit, Keirn, Regal/Taylor. Arn had Ole, Tully, Larry, Eaton, Roma (well, they did have the belts) and Mongo. Those are just regular partners. Bobby was part of the Heavenly Bodies for a while, technically. He won tag titles with George Gulas and Lanny Poffo and a six-man with Tojo Yamamoto. Arn often tagged with Flair or Pillman or other horsemen and had a short run tagging with Austin or other Studd Stable members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditch Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 K, I got a question about Super Strong Machine, Tenyru and Choshu. In the 90s, how many matches did each of these guys lose? I don't want to know against who as even though I watched a lot of 90s puroresu I haven't seen everything. I am just curious how many matches they lost. I have an approximate idea but want to get an accurate one. I'm guessing JDW knows. Super Strong Machine was a midcarder and as such probably lost multiple times per tour. Choshu was someone who would book himself to job at forgettable mid-tour shows so without full results there's no way of knowing. SWS and WAR results other than their absolute biggest shows are hard to come by so there's no way of knowing for sure about Tenryu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Barry Windham has the best clothesline ever, Hansen be damned. Please do not tell Stan Hansen I said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Barry Windham has the best clothesline ever, Hansen be damned. Please do not tell Stan Hansen I said that. I really think this is up in the air. There are a bunch of people who could say they have the best. The Steiners, Dynamite, Benoit, Hansen, Windham reminds me that I love PIllman's jump/flyhing clothesline from the ring canvas, Kobashi and others. I know I'm not mentioning a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 EDIT: Never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 K, I got a question about Super Strong Machine, Tenyru and Choshu. In the 90s, how many matches did each of these guys lose? I don't want to know against who as even though I watched a lot of 90s puroresu I haven't seen everything. I am just curious how many matches they lost. I have an approximate idea but want to get an accurate one. I'm guessing JDW knows. Honestly... who the fuck knows. Order the WONs and look up 10 years of results in roughly 500+ issues. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 World Wrestling Entertainment is banned now, only WWE. http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/180...lanta,-More.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 I guess they are progressively trying to erase the "word that shalll not be pronounced" once and for all. Too fucking bad it's WRESTLEmania week-end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Jim Ross wrote on Twitter that Ric Flair will be in attendance at tonight's Hall of Fame ceremony. Speaking of which, anyone know if it's being simulcast on WWE's website tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 if I'm not mistaken the female "fan" at 5:35 is Wendi Richter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 World Wrestling Entertainment is banned now, only WWE. http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/180...lanta,-More.htm Could just be an April Fool's joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Dave Meltzer specifically said it's not an April Fool's joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Could have been one pulled on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 http://heymanhustle.craveonline.com/videos...erts-interviews Funny video from the press conference (ESPECIALLY at the end) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morris Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 The whole idea that WWE wants to have no usage of the word "wrestling" in almost anything it does has gone beyond ridiculous. If they honestly think calling themselves an "entertainment" company means they'll be distanced from everything that's considered "negative" about pro wrestling, just wait until they find out how plenty of that "negative" stuff happens in other forms of entertainment as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooley Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Why do they bother having a ring anymore? Seems like it just gets in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Didn't someone (Shane?) suggest getting rid of the ring at some point in the 90s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 that was Russo IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooley Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 Losing the ring would probably be a plus for them at this point. That way, they can have the celebrity host come and do an opening monologue, run video packages, then someone can come out to a 5 minute entrance, and do a promo which gets interrupted by someone else having a 5 minute entrance. A couple of people can hit their big move or use a chair, then the host can wrap it up at the end. Vince finally gets to have his own real-life version of The Muppet Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 Losing the ring would probably be a plus for them at this point. That way, they can have the celebrity host come and do an opening monologue, run video packages, then someone can come out to a 5 minute entrance, and do a promo which gets interrupted by someone else having a 5 minute entrance. A couple of people can hit their big move or use a chair, then the host can wrap it up at the end. Vince finally gets to have his own real-life version of The Muppet Show. Reminds me of the South Park W.T.F. episode: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 It's stuff like this is why I love the internet @dragongatecima I wanna go to Waffle House. But it is very dangerous for me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 Losing the ring would probably be a plus for them at this point. That way, they can have the celebrity host come and do an opening monologue, run video packages, then someone can come out to a 5 minute entrance, and do a promo which gets interrupted by someone else having a 5 minute entrance. A couple of people can hit their big move or use a chair, then the host can wrap it up at the end. Vince finally gets to have his own real-life version of The Muppet Show. Reminds me of the South Park W.T.F. episode: A lot of people have been drawing those comparisons lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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