BrickHithouse Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 It's so weird watching wrestling where people are lighting up and smoking in the crowd. What I wouldn't give to have been born 20 years earlier. Of course I'd be dead by now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Two or three weeks ago I bookmarked a few cool youtube channels: one with a metric load of AWA, one with 70s MSG WWWF title matches and one called Monsoon Classic with a lot of 91-93 WCW and WWF from the syndicated TV shows. Well it may just be my lack of luck but it looks like WWE is going heavily after youtube channels because all of those are now gone. I'm sure this is news to none of you. Just moments ago I saw that some cool videos, matches, and promos I'd bookmarked were no longer there. Stuff that used to turn up in a YouTube search is now gone, too. Is WWE going after copies of theme songs, too? I noticed a lot of those are gone, especially the obscure ones I forgot to copy to an MP3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 This is a random question, but how much 70's Stan Hansen is available? I know the Bruno Cage Match exists and I think there is a Destroyer match from the mid-70's that is on youtube. Not sure about anything else. I'd be interested to see what is out there so if anyone finds anything drop the link in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 You should have looked at the match list in the trading folder. This is what I came up with when making the set... Disc 1 Stan Hansen vs. The Destroyer (10/30/75) Stan Hansen vs. Bruno Sammartino (4/26/76) Battle Royal (5/8/76) (8mm clips) Stan Hansen & Ivan Koloff vs. Bruno Sammartino & Ivan Putski (7/10/76) (8mm Clips) Stan Hansen vs. Bruno Sammartino (Cage Match) (11/6/76) (8mm Clips) Stan Hansen vs. Antonio Inoki (9/2/77) Stan Hansen vs. Andre the Giant (5/18/79) Stan Hansen vs. Antonio Inoki (6/7/79) Stan Hansen vs. Killer Karl Kox (10/27/79) Stan Hansen & Ole Anderson Interview (11/10/79) Stan Hansen & Ole Anderson vs. Ernie Ladd & Masked Superstar (11/10/79) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 It's so weird watching wrestling where people are lighting up and smoking in the crowd. What I wouldn't give to have been born 20 years earlier. Of course I'd be dead by now... Last time my friends and I went to Mexico to see wrestling there were ashtrays at the ends of the aisles, and that was in 2004. Also love the beer girls walking around with buckets of Corona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 You should have looked at the match list in the trading folder. This is what I came up with when making the set... Disc 1 Stan Hansen vs. The Destroyer (10/30/75) Stan Hansen vs. Bruno Sammartino (4/26/76) Battle Royal (5/8/76) (8mm clips) Stan Hansen & Ivan Koloff vs. Bruno Sammartino & Ivan Putski (7/10/76) (8mm Clips) Stan Hansen vs. Bruno Sammartino (Cage Match) (11/6/76) (8mm Clips) Stan Hansen vs. Antonio Inoki (9/2/77) Stan Hansen vs. Andre the Giant (5/18/79) Stan Hansen vs. Antonio Inoki (6/7/79) Stan Hansen vs. Killer Karl Kox (10/27/79) Stan Hansen & Ole Anderson Interview (11/10/79) Stan Hansen & Ole Anderson vs. Ernie Ladd & Masked Superstar (11/10/79) Some others: Dan's 1974-81 Misc set: October 4, 1977 : Inoki vs Hansen [W=15'49"] May 4, 1979 : Sakaguchi, Inoki vs Brisco, Hansen [W=11'48"] May 25, 1979 : Inoki vs Hansen [W=13'03"] June 1, 1979 : Sakaguchi vs Hansen [W=15'45"] Classics Inoki vs. Stan Hansen 2/2/77 Box that Dan may have: 4/27/79 Umanoseke Ueda vs. Stan Hansen There may be more on box sets and other commercial releases that Dan has. There was a Hansen three disc that came out a couple of years ago. Dan didn't get it at the time, nor put up the full list. A good deal of what might be out there in addition to this would be Inoki related from 1977 and 1979. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 I've been watching a comp of Kevin Sullivan in Florida lately and it seems like he, or some combination of his group is beating up Jimmy Backlund every week. Seemingly every squash match on the comp (and there are a lot) features Jimmy Backlund teaming with someone to get destroyed by Sullivan, Bob Roop or Mark Lewin. Other than that, his devil worshiper gimmick is such a mixed bag. There's cool stuff like the angle where Blackjack Mulligan says Sullivan has no real control over people and it's all an act and Sullivan responds with Luna showing up to be his follower and them shaving her head in a really good segment. But there are just so many promos where it feels like all he's doing is spouting gibberish about Abudadein, the cosmic cookie and the 13th step of the 13th pyramid blah blah blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Hansen/Bobby Duncum vs. Billy Robinson/Doug Gilbert from 7/79 in Minneapolis is available, albeit in not great quality. Gilbert is a late sub for whoever Billy's partner was supposed to be as they no-showed. The angle where Hansen attacks Wally Karbo during a match and gets suspended from the AWA in the same time frame is also around on one of the old AWA PPV specials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzombie1988 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I've been watching a comp of Kevin Sullivan in Florida lately and it seems like he, or some combination of his group is beating up Jimmy Backlund every week. Seemingly every squash match on the comp (and there are a lot) features Jimmy Backlund teaming with someone to get destroyed by Sullivan, Bob Roop or Mark Lewin. Other than that, his devil worshiper gimmick is such a mixed bag. There's cool stuff like the angle where Blackjack Mulligan says Sullivan has no real control over people and it's all an act and Sullivan responds with Luna showing up to be his follower and them shaving her head in a really good segment. But there are just so many promos where it feels like all he's doing is spouting gibberish about Abudadein, the cosmic cookie and the 13th step of the 13th pyramid blah blah blah. That's pretty much the gist of it. I've seen some good Sullivan promos and some really dumb ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Just finishing watching the Kevin Sullivan comp, and I have to say the turning of Bob Roop was a pretty good angle. Roop is supposed to be retired and Sullivan goes to recruit him. Roop blows him off and says he's retired and he's going to enjoy his retirement with Dark Angel! Roop thinks he's stolen her from Sullivan but it's really just a ruse because the next time we see Roop he's Maya Singh with Dark Angel having been the one to turn him. And Roop does a great job selling the transformation the first time we see him with the half shaved head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 I wonder if he'll be a better mayor than member of The Four Horsemen? http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/s...0,4897703.story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickHithouse Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 How much footage is out there of 1983-86 Crockett - enough (and good enough quality) to make a week-to-week "digest" sort of comp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 There's probably enough to do it well for each of those years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 I wonder if he'll be a better mayor than member of The Four Horsemen? http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/s...0,4897703.story That would be a great movie. The mayor requests equal time so the sports radio channel offers to give him his own show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 How much footage is out there of 1983-86 Crockett - enough (and good enough quality) to make a week-to-week "digest" sort of comp? I suspect that pretty much all of 1986 is available. Probably most of 1985 as the WWE put a fair amount of it out on 24/7. I don't know how much 1983 and 1984 bubbled up in the past few years. There were tape traders doing "best of" stuff back in the 80s that included JCP stuff. I think guys like McAdam would have had some, that in turn circulated. My guess is the JCP 1985 through the end of the decade is largely available. Prior to that is much more spotty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 It always surprised me just how much handheld material seems to be available from late 85 into 86 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Some of the B-shows have gaps in 1988-1989, specifically Main Event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 B sides comp still in the plans? That'd be a cool release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Does All American exist anywhere between 88-92 or so? I know 93 has a pretty full run but i can't even find good results for exclusive matches between 88 and 92. And just think of all the lost bobby the brain goofballery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravJ1979 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Boredom took over so I used excel to calculate dates that CM Punk "would have" broken the remaining 6* longest title reigns. It's actually 7 as I split Backlund's first reign to adjust for the Inoki switch that technically is now recognized by WWE. Bob Backlund 1 (2/20/78 - 11/30/79) - 648 days would be August 30, 2013 for Punk at 649. Pedro Morales (2/8/71 - 12/1/73) - 1,027 days would be September 13, 2014 for Punk at 1,028. Bruno Sammartino 2 (12/10/73 - 4/30/77) - 1,237 days would be April 11, 2015 for Punk at 1,238. Hulk Hogan 1 (1/23/84 - 2/5/88) - 1,474 days would be December 4, 2015 for Punk at 1,475. Bob Backlund 2 (12/6/79 - 12/26/83) - 1, 481 days would be December 11, 2015 for Punk at 1,482. Bruno Sammartino 1 (5/17/63 - 1/18/71) - 2,804 days would be July 25, 2019 for Punk at 2,805. **Punk actually said 7/25/18 on Raw so he was a year off** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 This didn't deserve its own thread: but Bob Caudle has really REALLY been bugging me over the past few NWA shows from 88 I've been watching for the podcast. I just wanted to guage what people's views are on Caudle. This board has a very low opinion of Gorilla Monsoon, partly because he shit on guys and partly because he spoke in platitudes. Bob Caudle in 88 speaks almost solely in platitudes. He's the wrestling equivalent of a football ("soccer") manager coming out after the game as saying "well, y'know, at the end of the day, it's a game of two halves, and come what May the side with the most points at the top of the table will win the leauge" but for like 2 hours over the course of an entire show. He says absolutely nothing of interest. Nothing insightful. He doesn't help Ross call the action. He doesn't give any reasons for the random predictions he makes. He doesn't add ANYTHING to these shows at all. Ross and Schiavone are a good combo. David Crockett, in my view, added A LOT to the shows he was on in terms of excitement and general insanity. I remember not liking the Solie - Caudle partnership much but Chad and I focused much more on Solie's shortcomings (some of which were explainable by context). Caudle, however, got a free pass. Not any more. He never gets excited. He never says anything insightful or even of note. What does anyone see in him? If I was to rank the announcers in order, right now he'd be coming below Sean Mooney or Lord Alfred Hayes. At least those two can make you laugh on occassion. Caudle is just fucking boring and the definition of someone on autopilot. What are people's views on Caudle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Caudle had a professional sounding voice and his delivery was good. I never really had a problem with him. Having a good voice is pretty much key. I was watching a Bret/Dibiase match where some guy on youtube overdubbed his own commentary and in the comments he was going on about how he had more talent than Michael Cole. Needless to say, the guy better hang onto his day job because his voice and delivery were awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Agree with OJ. To me, 99% of being a good announcer is sounding like you belong in the booth. If you can not actively distract from the wrestling, that's a big start. I don't care about guys calling moves correctly, etc. Gabe Sapolsky could get moves right. He also had made me want to jab sharp things into my ears. I didn't mind Caudle with Ross. Ross could get so excited and over-the-top, it was nice to have someone more low-key in the booth with him. And when something big would happen, Caudle could get excited. It's not like he was a lump all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 At first I didn't enjoy Caudle much for the reasons Jerry mentionned, especially paired with Ross. The two didn't compliment each other. Then I watched SMW, where Caudle worked with Ducth Mantell for two years. And pretty quickly, this duo developped a dynamic that I would put against anyone, they were excellent together, Caudle as the no nonsense guy and Dutch as the fantastic heel color man. I wouldn't say Caudle was Lance Russel in SMW, has clearly he wasn't (and really, no one is), but he really clicked with Mantell and he was really fucking good during that period playing the straight guy balancing Mantell's hilarious insanity with a good sense of humour himself and the exact right amount of outrage at the heel's actions and not to much blatant fanboyism for the babyface. Watch Caudle in SMW, at first I thought I would not enjoy him based on my WCW experience, but I quickly turned the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Cooke Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 I always laughed at Gabe screaming "Dangerous!!!!!" but I don't think that was the intention. Caudle and Ross struck me as the most solid team in the NWA from 1988-1990. I think Ross and David Crockett circa 1986 would have been a lot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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