sek69 Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Between not having access to internet reliable enough for streaming video and a gap in knowledge of devices to stream with, there's plenty of valid reasons for someone to order on PPV rather than the network. It's not even just people out in the boonies either in terms of reliable internet. Here in the Pittsburgh area if you don't have Fios or Comcast you're stuck with speeds that are barely fast enough for YouTube videos let alone watching a nearly 3 hour show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Yeah, this whole "How dumb are these people?" narrative I'm seeing is so fucking indicative of dudes online not having any grasp of the big picture. Amongst everyone I know in real life, no one has "cut the cable/ satellite " besides my household. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Survivor Series did 103,000 buys. People must have been interested in the Authority stip and the Sting rumors. Pretty shitty news for the Network though I guess I did enjoy the Survivor Series Main Event and it was pretty interesting however I do feel they should have kept the Sting angle going instead of just not mentioning it after the show. As a fan they missed the boat as they havent furthered the storyline at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Survivor Series did 103,000 buys. People must have been interested in the Authority stip and the Sting rumors. Pretty shitty news for the Network though I guess I did enjoy the Survivor Series Main Event and it was pretty interesting however I do feel they should have kept the Sting angle going instead of just not mentioning it after the show. As a fan they missed the boat as they havent furthered the storyline at all. They've mentioned it, haven't you been listening to Michael Cole yell at us about THE VIGILANTE Sting? But yea it's kind of stupid that they haven't had him on TV since HHH & Steph couldn't continue the angle on their end either. But I think his contract was only for like 5 appearances? I forget exactly how many but it was between 3-6 and he's already used 1 for Survivor Series so they are just saving all his dates for the Mania build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Yeah, this whole "How dumb are these people?" narrative I'm seeing is so fucking indicative of dudes online not having any grasp of the big picture. Amongst everyone I know in real life, no one has "cut the cable/ satellite " besides my household. Conversely the majority of people I work with and interact with have cut the Cable/Satellite cord and none of them are what I would consider people with an online presence. The truth is somewhere in the middle as there are lots of people who have cut the cord but aren't interested in WWE's product, but there is still a decent sized chunk who is either wary of cutting the cord, doesn't want to, or has no idea they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingSavage Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I think there's also a point to be made about the people that tried jumping onto the "cut the cord" bandwagon before it was as viable or easily accessible as it is today. Can't speak for everyone, but I knew a good portion of older folks that are a bit discouraged about moving away from satellite again - after previously trying to switch totally over to Netflix or Hulu only in the past few years or so. I've been running strictly from wireless Internet and streaming devices for years now. No complaints on my end, but I can certainly see why some would be disinterested in the idea after running into roadblocks with it before. People want convenience and relaxation when it comes to watching their shows & stuff - ESPECIALLY in this day of binge-watching obsessions & such. Can't exactly fault 'em for spending more funds or whatever to get that and not run the risk of buffering or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I wasn't really looking at it as being a case of either cutting the cord or going 100% with streaming. I didn't realize they were mutually exclusive, and WWE wouldn't want people to cut the cord anyway. How would they watch RAW? The Hulu version is edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Survivor Series did 103,000 buys. People must have been interested in the Authority stip and the Sting rumors. Pretty shitty news for the Network though I guess I did enjoy the Survivor Series Main Event and it was pretty interesting however I do feel they should have kept the Sting angle going instead of just not mentioning it after the show. As a fan they missed the boat as they havent furthered the storyline at all. They've mentioned it, haven't you been listening to Michael Cole yell at us about THE VIGILANTE Sting? But yea it's kind of stupid that they haven't had him on TV since HHH & Steph couldn't continue the angle on their end either. But I think his contract was only for like 5 appearances? I forget exactly how many but it was between 3-6 and he's already used 1 for Survivor Series so they are just saving all his dates for the Mania build. Probably not no. Its a shame that his appearances are limited instead of getting paid a deal to work a few dates more for the buildup. The next night Hunter should have come out cut a promo on Sting how he cost him his power and money and really bash Sting and the following weeks on Raw leads up to Sting tormenting Hunter & the Authority until they finally square off at mania. Something like how Sting tormented the NWO in WCW for weeks before the big match. A couple of appearances before mania isnt enough build for me as id love it to be done properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Yeah, this whole "How dumb are these people?" narrative I'm seeing is so fucking indicative of dudes online not having any grasp of the big picture. Amongst everyone I know in real life, no one has "cut the cable/ satellite " besides my household. so do people who still subscribe to a television service not have the ability to stream things over the internet? I'm really confused by this notion that people had to drop their cable provider in order to stream a free PPV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 On the Sting thing, I know its hokey as all shit, but couldn't they have run some segments/angles where there was (a) no Sting, but "technicality difficulties" that would lead one to believe Sting was the culprit or ( impostor/fake Stings that are shown to be fake. Y'know, "mind games." I just think, thematically, these are things that would keep the storyline going and be within Sting's character, but don't require Steve Borden to be anywhere near a WWE show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Meltz says they have a "major angle" planned for the Jan. 5 Raw that will set off Wrestlemania season. I assume that means Hunter and Stephanie are returning that night setting up the Sting match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Yeah, this whole "How dumb are these people?" narrative I'm seeing is so fucking indicative of dudes online not having any grasp of the big picture. Amongst everyone I know in real life, no one has "cut the cable/ satellite " besides my household. so do people who still subscribe to a television service not have the ability to stream things over the internet? I'm really confused by this notion that people had to drop their cable provider in order to stream a free PPV. Lots of people have great cable/ satellite and shitty internet. I was one for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeplastictrees Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Meltz says they have a "major angle" planned for the Jan. 5 Raw that will set off Wrestlemania season. I assume that means Hunter and Stephanie are returning that night setting up the Sting match I hope not. WWE needs to let it breathe. If WWE brings them back around SummerSlam 2015 (I have an entire angle in my head involving Cena/Bryan/and The Authority that plays off of SummerSlam 2013, Survivor Series 2014, 'Doing what's best for business', and a ton of other shit that would make Cena a heel without him actually being a heel. There will be a WM17 element), that is one thing. But why so soon. What I also don't understand is the rumour about WWE bringing them back to boost ratings. When did Stephanie/HHH become rating draws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Meltz says they have a "major angle" planned for the Jan. 5 Raw that will set off Wrestlemania season. I assume that means Hunter and Stephanie are returning that night setting up the Sting match I hope not. WWE needs to let it breathe. If WWE brings them back around SummerSlam 2015 (I have an entire angle in my head involving Cena/Bryan/and The Authority that plays off of SummerSlam 2013, Survivor Series 2014, 'Doing what's best for business', and a ton of other shit that would make Cena a heel without him actually being a heel. There will be a WM17 element), that is one thing. But why so soon. What I also don't understand is the rumour about WWE bringing them back to boost ratings. When did Stephanie/HHH become rating draws? Since the ratings have gone down since they've been off t.v. I mean they're not going to admit they're writing a show that a lot of viewers don't think they need to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Clearly, The Vigilante Sting will make it all better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Survivor Series did 103,000 buys. People must have been interested in the Authority stip and the Sting rumors. Pretty shitty news for the Network though I guess I realize this is a small thing, but I'm wondering if theatres up here in Canada play much into those numbers. Business for PPVs in movie theatres up here is down so much that after SummerSlam, they didn't do the next few shows, until Survivor Series, which they did do. Otherwise, it has to be a case of people interested in the show, but have no access to the Network/limited internet/bandwidth, etc. as others mentioned. Canada would have to figure a bit into the domestic numbers, if but for a small percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Survivor Series did 103,000 buys. People must have been interested in the Authority stip and the Sting rumors. Pretty shitty news for the Network though I guess I realize this is a small thing, but I'm wondering if theatres up here in Canada play much into those numbers. Business for PPVs in movie theatres up here is down so much that after SummerSlam, they didn't do the next few shows, until Survivor Series, which they did do. Otherwise, it has to be a case of people interested in the show, but have no access to the Network/limited internet/bandwidth, etc. as others mentioned. Canada would have to figure a bit into the domestic numbers, if but for a small percentage. Since the Network launched I have not been to the theater to see a ppv, but damn is that a fun experience. Well it's really fun if you are near kids and not near douche bags who are constantly talking about rumours that I have never heard before and that are truly incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingSavage Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 I said before that I only want them to bring the European title back if it's in tandem with the US title, and Rusev just has them both. Maybe you do a match with Jericho (as a former champion) where Rusev goes over to make it official. And then... he pursues my ultimate gimmick idea: a guy who has just decided to assemble his own version of the J-Crown. Even if you're building him towards a World title match, the idea of him squashing legends to claim their titles is awesome to me as just pure cheap heat, and nobody can deny the glorious image of Rusev carrying around every spare retired title belt that they have. I honestly think that sounds tremendous. This sort of angle could be used to pile on the heat for his first World Championship shot. Even if he fails, I think he comes away with enough momentum to keep marching forward for awhile. For anyone concerned that Rusev would drift aimlessly after being beaten, I think there'd actually be a built-in extension of this gimmick for him to work beyond that. Just have him turn into a type of "trophy hunter" instead of a title collector. As he'd maul & mow down opponents, he could rip away a piece of their character or costume as a trophy. Of course it'd have a shelf life also, but at least it'd keep him progressing towards something & FEEL like he's consistently achieving something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Totally enjoying the Cesaro/Kidd tag team so far on the B shows. Throw out the Usos, Dust Bros, MizDow, and maybe throw in a Neville and a partner you could have a preshow match, and a match on the ppv and get at least a year out of the division. I know i'm dreaming, but it wouldn't hurt the quality of the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 So Bryan mentioned on the Sunday B&V show that Kevin Dunn hates accents and that was the main reason Adam Rose got buried in WWE. That doesn't bode well for Adrian Neville, Finn Balor, and Becky Lynch. I wonder if that's why they did the whole NJPW entrance/Carnage facepaint with Balor in NXT to make it hard to justify another Dunn burial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 That Show/Reigns match, while maybe not being too significant in the scheme of things, isn't the best indication for Reigns' push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 I'm an admitted sucker for inventive counters to Cena's routine stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 I really don't understand why they keep jobbing Ambrose. It's getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 I heard the theory being advanced that they're jobbing Ambrose out to keep another Daniel Bryan situation from happening when they give Reigns the Rumble win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 It's hard to not think that's part of the motivation. At this point, I just think that he's the highest-tiered JTTS. But they're kind of making Ziggler into a cause celebre to counter Reigns, whether they realize it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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