Bierschwale Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 I was incredibly pleased by that main event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Bryan now sporting the 1996 Shawn Michaels hair. He looked pretty damn good in both matches. That is the first time I can remember other babyfaces saving him from a beatdown. I don't recall that happening at all last year in that 9 month storyline. Hopefully they don't fuck around with the Kane match next week. Something tells me they move that match to Raw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 The entire face roster saved him from a beatdown in fall 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 btw, I know a lot of people are down on him on the mic but I thought Rollins was just fantastic in that Heyman segment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 That is the first time I can remember other babyfaces saving him from a beatdown. I don't recall that happening at all last year in that 9 month storyline. Â They were pretty good with that, actually, when I think that "faces not saving other faces" is often a huge weakness. The locker room save that led to the 11-on-3 match, the Rhodes Bros./Usos bailing him and Punk out from the combined Shield/Wyatts attack, and The Shield's save the night after WM all come to mind quickly enough. The only times when he wasn't that stand out are the first HHH beatdown (where Bryan got him with the punt to the head while Trips was standing over him which was the most important thing), the absurd one with the fake cops, and the write-out with Kane. All of those had storyline purpose instead of the babyfaces just not getting off of their asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 damn how could I forget the Shield one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadic Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 I don't think fans will give up on the guy. If all the bad booking before last year's Rumble and eight months on the sidelines don't make people lose their affection for him, then nothing will. I feel like he's going to be the Bret Hart or Ric Flair type of this era in that he's never really going to be the guy they want to build around, but they will often have to go back to him because of either fan demand or because their other experiments don't work out. We'll see if I'm right on that point or not. Â I think Bryan CAN be more than that but I don't think it'll happen. I'm of the mindset that the future WWE is looking for really is in Rollins, Ambrose, Zayne and Balor. One of those four I feel is going to be the guy - most likely Balor. Bryan will float with Itami as guys I can see them going back to when necessary if experiments bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 No knock on Balor's incredible talents and, personally, I don't find these things to matter to me as a fan, but looking at WWE's history, is there really a feeling that a non-North American guy under 6 feet tall could really be the focus of the WWE? I mean, sure, we saw something close to that with Benoit, Guerrero, and Mysterio, and if Finn Balor can achieve THAT level of success, he'd be a Hall of Fame caliber guy, but I just don't know if he could seriously be considered a potential "next guy" like Reigns, Ambrose, or Rollins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlittlekitten Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Can Balor even talk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 No knock on Balor's incredible talents and, personally, I don't find these things to matter to me as a fan, but looking at WWE's history, is there really a feeling that a non-North American guy under 6 feet tall could really be the focus of the WWE? I mean, sure, we saw something close to that with Benoit, Guerrero, and Mysterio, and if Finn Balor can achieve THAT level of success, he'd be a Hall of Fame caliber guy, but I just don't know if he could seriously be considered a potential "next guy" like Reigns, Ambrose, or Rollins.  If you believe the gossip Kevin Dunn hates accents. Jim Ross was "too southern". Regal is too British to be doing commentary on tv (let's ignore the fact that he's great at it and the fact that he's British has never seemed to bother the audience). Meltzer thought the main reason they did the elaborate entrance and paint for Balor on the NXT show is because HHH expects Dunn to bury him when he's called up, and he wants him to have a running start on an uphill climb  So who knows. I'm not the biggest Balor fan but if he's given a fair shot he'll probably get over. I don't see him ever being as over as Mysterio, Guerrero or Benoit.....but stranger things have happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Sleeze Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 The Thursday commercials are the best thing going on WWE TV right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 I had no clue Paige was saying "Thursday" at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 The Thursday commercials are the best thing going on WWE TV right now  Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Meltzer thought the main reason they did the elaborate entrance and paint for Balor on the NXT show is because HHH expects Dunn to bury him when he's called up, and he wants him to have a running start on an uphill climb  Makes me wonder how Kevin Dunn has that kind of influence, to where Triple H would need to play a card like that on one of his projects? Surely, Hunter could just tell Dunn how it's going to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrainfollower Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Never underestimate Vince's enjoyment of putting the people on top against each other just to amuse himself and send them a "message". Dictators do it all the time and that strikes me as his personality type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 It fits everything we have ever heard about him. He has done it with his talent for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 I feel like fans want the extended Daniel Bryan reign as champion now - not just for him to win, but for him to hold on to it for a little while and take on all comers, since that didn't happen last year. I don't think his persona is the type that needs the title for a long period of time, but he at least needs a few months of challengers before dropping the title, and if they don't go for total heartbreak in the storytelling when having him drop it, they are doing it wrong. Â Why would you book a storyline with your most over babyface that ends in heartbreak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Yeah, that's why people are getting antsy about a call up for Neville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015   I feel like fans want the extended Daniel Bryan reign as champion now - not just for him to win, but for him to hold on to it for a little while and take on all comers, since that didn't happen last year. I don't think his persona is the type that needs the title for a long period of time, but he at least needs a few months of challengers before dropping the title, and if they don't go for total heartbreak in the storytelling when having him drop it, they are doing it wrong. Why would you book a storyline with your most over babyface that ends in heartbreak? If you do it right and not in a way that makes fans feel like they're being trolled or screwed with then you build sympathy and return business. You can have Rusev topple Bryan in a year or so because Bryan just can't put anything together to physically overcome him. No matter how hard he fought on that night he just wasnt good enough. You can get return business out of that. That's heartbreaking in a good way.  Or you can have Rollins cash in after Bryan defends in some meaningless triple threat with Kane, Big Show, maybe there's a Reigns authority turn. Then it's just same old shit. That's just fucking with people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Per the last Bryan and Dave show, there's been talk that the Sami-Owens match is happening sooner than later (the February NXT special) because there's been talk of Sami getting the call to the main roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Bennett Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Yeah, I thought Sami staying down there for another year was iffy. He'd have to be a front runner to debut some time in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Bryan confirms (or the latest one to confirm) that he was supposed to face Sheamus at WM last year. That really should put to rest that the WWE had the main event plan from the start (not that anyone around here is saying that) Meltz really has come out shining and smelling great through this whole deal. Dead on from the beginning  http://www.newsday.com/sports/pro-wrestling/daniel-bryan-wwe-superstar-thought-neck-injury-might-end-his-career-1.9811542 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Bryan confirms (or the latest one to confirm) that he was supposed to face Sheamus at WM last year. That really should put to rest that the WWE had the main event plan from the start (not that anyone around here is saying that) Meltz really has come out shining and smelling great through this whole deal. Dead on from the beginning  http://www.newsday.com/sports/pro-wrestling/daniel-bryan-wwe-superstar-thought-neck-injury-might-end-his-career-1.9811542  I probably was the only one anywhere that wouldn't have minded that!  For one, it would have meant a Sheamus heel turn, something that the character needed, and second, I'm sure the storyline would play up a redemption angle for the infamous 18 seconds WM match. Not to mention an IRL redemption at 'Mania for the two going back to the year before with the US title match turning into a pre-show schmozz that turned into a battle royal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Because of Sheamus being portrayed as a second-tier wrestler for so long, I really think that match has RAW main event potential at a maximum unless/until Sheamus is really rebuilt. They would have closed the show with a match like that at one time, but I don't think they would now. It would probably go at the top of the third hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 The inevitable Sheamus heel turn is gonna be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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