goc Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Just because the footage is down doesn't mean there isn't a deal in progress. It's not like that is something that would get done in 2 days time. Obviously it's going to involve a lot of lawyers and paper work because that's just how something like that would go. It's not going to be a "handshake" deal. I'm not sure it's going to see the light of day again though because I'm just not sure Vince sees it as something worth paying for to have on the Network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Why wouldn't Bret trust Vince on a handshake deal? Vince wouldn't go back on his word to Bret. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 If the company wanted to put Stampede up they can. Just not the Bret stuff. Bruce sold them Stampede minus the rights to Bret .They could put Owen era stuff up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 It is funny since the Stampede stuff was the only footage that was new to us at least in part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I'm kind of concerned the uploading of classic stuff suddenly came to a halt. I wasn't expecting them to keep the same pace, but there's been nothing since the initial burst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 That was kind of expected to me. It seemed like the stuff they uploaded were things they already had converted and sitting around from COD or compilation DVDs/Network specials. And now with the issues with the Stampede stuff I feel like that makes it more likely they just drop off from uploading any more territory footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrainfollower Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I doubt they'd seriously do that because of just Stampede. I have a feeling this was a begrudging release anyway and certainly not what Vince wants his network to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 For what it's worth, the Stampede category is still showing up in my Watchlist, but there are no shows available, of course (Roku). Did anyone catch this week's Breaking Ground, and did it look - for lack of better terms - oily and out of focus? Wasn't my connection, because I tried Unfiltered for a couple of minutes as a test and it looked perfect, as did content on other streaming services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 For what it's worth, the Stampede category is still showing up in my Watchlist, but there are no shows available, of course (Roku). Did anyone catch this week's Breaking Ground, and did it look - for lack of better terms - oily and out of focus? Wasn't my connection, because I tried Unfiltered for a couple of minutes as a test and it looked perfect, as did content on other streaming services. Are you sure it wasn't just Baron Corbin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye12 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Anyways, wish WWE would upload more footage it actually owns, which is more than plentiful, but whatever. With all the Starrcade events being available in the PPV section, even the ones that predated PPV. I hope to see Crockett Cups and Superstars on the Superstation get added too. I'd like to see the Japan Supershows and Kollision in Korea added as well. And the Turner releases of the Great American Bash show's pre-1988. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTLL Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Mildly related, I would do terrible things to see the unclipped multicam version of Flair/Windham from '87 and several other Cup matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Anyways, wish WWE would upload more footage it actually owns, which is more than plentiful, but whatever. With all the Starrcade events being available in the PPV section, even the ones that predated PPV. I hope to see Crockett Cups and Superstars on the Superstation get added too. I'd like to see the Japan Supershows and Kollision in Korea added as well. And the Turner releases of the Great American Bash show's pre-1988. The Supershows are on NJPW World if you don't mind Japanese commentary. I'd like to see all major pre-PPV shows from NWA/AWA/Mid-South/etc. There is no reason that those shows aren't on the network if they are in their vault. The network should be as much of an archive as it is a network. There are so many wrestling fans from so many generations, all of it has value to somebody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 They showed the Korea show on 24/7 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'd like to see them add way more MSG shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'd imagine that they're waiting on some numbers before continuing with adding more old shit. Like Loss said, just keep it streaming. As well as the fact that they might look at the amount of hours put up and be thinking "that's a lot of content", not thinking that maniacs with apparently nothing else to do are binge watching. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'd like to see them add way more MSG shows. Yeah, and Philly, Boston, Toronto...so much potential house show footage to draw from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'd just like some consistency. Like every Saturday morning, 3-5 new classic shows are put up. Then we'd at least not have to worry that the door is closed for another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeplastictrees Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I can't believe we are two years in and WWE doesn't release a quarterly schedule. Sure, there are ads here-and-there telling us what is 'coming up' on the WWE Network, but what's stopping them for letting the subscribers know that in Q2 of 2016 we can expect The first 2 years of WCW Saturday Night, All of Smackdown 2001, the 'first season' of Shotgun Saturday Night (when it was in a club), etc. It doesn't have to be a HUGE announcement with graphics, etc., but just putting something on WWE.com would be great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 The idea behind adding all the territory footage was to see if it led to a spike in Christmastime subscribers, according to the WON. Of course, how would anyone know that this footage has been added considering that they crowdsource the hype on social media? Do they just expect people to know every time they add something? Not everyone who follows this stuff is like us (a vast understatement). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradhindsight Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'd be curious if they even ran a canned 30 second network piece with that info on Raw or Smackdown - you know, the main avenues to getting the word out to their viewers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I can't believe we are two years in and WWE doesn't release a quarterly schedule. Sure, there are ads here-and-there telling us what is 'coming up' on the WWE Network, but what's stopping them for letting the subscribers know that in Q2 of 2016 we can expect The first 2 years of WCW Saturday Night, All of Smackdown 2001, the 'first season' of Shotgun Saturday Night (when it was in a club), etc. It doesn't have to be a HUGE announcement with graphics, etc., but just putting something on WWE.com would be great! I suspect the reasoning behind not doing that is they wouldn't want you or I to look at the schedule, not see anything being added in the next three months that we like, and then cancelling our sub until we do see something we want or like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...TG Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 The idea behind adding all the territory footage was to see if it led to a spike in Christmastime subscribers, according to the WON. Of course, how would anyone know that this footage has been added considering that they crowdsource the hype on social media? Do they just expect people to know every time they add something? Not everyone who follows this stuff is like us (a vast understatement). Dave's befuddled response to you on twitter was gold: https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/675008843265404928.) Stuff like that is basic, common-sense marketing, you would think. But then, it took them almost two years to figure out that gift cards were a good idea. WWE is just bafflingly incompetent at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 They've spent more time advertising the gift cards than anything they ever put on the network other than the monthly PPVs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...TG Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 They've spent more time advertising the gift cards than anything they ever put on the network other than the monthly PPVs. I know. My point was that they should have been available from day one, or at least Xmas season 2014, not almost two years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherwagner Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'm even more surprised that they don't promote this stuff with current and past subscribers. I have had two accounts as a few months ago I switched to a different address (after they figured out how to hike up my USD price because I am in the UK) so on their database I show up as a former subscriber. I haven't seen a single mention about the territory footage in either mailing list. This is stuff that WWE should know about me: I'm an over 30 male who has never watched a WWE Network PPV live (except for Wrestlemania... I fell asleep during the last part but they still don't have the technology to know THAT). I have not watched most of their B PPV's (live or on-demand) but I have watched every single major NXT show. I have not watched any Main Event or Superstars episode. I have maybe watched at most a dozen post-2010 Raws on the network and 0 Smackdown episodes. I have watched every pre-1992 show on the network (except for a handful of TNT), some of them several times. You'd think that the way to get me back on board wouldn't be an email saying that they miss me with a giant HDR photoshopped picture of Roman Reigns. Your Big Data is telling you quite clearly that, no, I do not give a single fuck about Roman Reigns. A picture of the Horsemen and Dusty telling me that, hey, we just uploaded 100 hours of NWA/WCW/TBS/Saturday Night, why don't you come back? Or a reminder that I used to like NXT, since you left all of these matches have happened, here's a highlight video of what you have missed. BTW I work in the data world and analysing all of these trends is super easy and you can bet that they are collecting all of this data, but they just like to compare themselves to Netflix without doing any of the actual behind the scenes work that Netflix does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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