Eduardo Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 I skipped out on seeing the ladder match to watch Chris Hero vs WALTER live, and don't regret it. I still haven't seen the ladder match, highlights look awesome, but randomness of WWE/NXT having a competing show to TakeOver a couple of miles away headlined by Hero vs WALTER was just too interesting to me and it was pretty awesome and stiff. Did catch the rest of TakeOver live and it was pretty great and amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahoos Leg Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 I'm not a star ratings guy but to me five stars basically is equivalent to perfection. I thought this match was a lot of fun despite the midmatch lull but certainly not perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 I am not remotely surprised that he gave the ladder match 5. I mean it wasn't close for me, but I did think it was pretty good for what it was. I am not into the MOTB matches and what not, but this - for the most part - felt like it was well put together and worked off everyone's strengths. It also really got Ricochet and Dream over even though they didn't win. I rated it pretty highly, but I also thought Almas/Black was better. Gargano/Ciampa was hands down the best match of the night and I was very much expecting Meltzer to give that the full 5. It doesn't QUITE get there for me, but I have no problem with anyone being all in on that match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 They let Hero work other promotions? Or did I miss something and he's gone from NXT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 I've been surprised over the course of the week to realize there's a significant segment of folks who rated the ladder match above the main event. As I said in the original Takeover thread, I no longer feel anything toward those WWE stunt fest matches. I don't even hate them. I'm just indifferent. But for a lot of people, that style is obviously the pinnacle of wrestling. I guess it's a testament to WWE that they satisfied such a wide range of tastes at a high level in the course of one, five-match show. Workrate über alles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 I thought the ladder match was fun, but it was easily behind the title match, Gargano vs. Ciampa and the Moon vs. Bayzler match which I thought was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 They let Hero work other promotions? Or did I miss something and he's gone from NXT?WWE/NXT/205 had shows on AXXESS using all sorts of indie talent like Keith Lee, WALTER, and other folks from WWN and Progress. Hero challenged Keith Lee for the WWN title on Thursday, and also had a banger with WALTER on Saturday. They did let Hero do an ICW show a few months ago. His run has been so different from anyone else in NXT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Rock Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 They let Hero work other promotions? Or did I miss something and he's gone from NXT?WWE/NXT/205 had shows on AXXESS using all sorts of indie talent like Keith Lee, WALTER, and other folks from WWN and Progress. Hero challenged Keith Lee for the WWN title on Thursday, and also had a banger with WALTER on Saturday. They did let Hero do an ICW show a few months ago. His run has been so different from anyone else in NXT. They let Danny Burch and Lorcan do some indie stuff as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingSavage Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 What is Hero's deal in NXT anyway? Is he strictly talent, or is he helping to train/coach up the green guys also? I saw a shoot (RF, iirc) after he was released a few years back, and he was asked about the circumstances surrounding his release. At the time, Hero seemed to indicate it was a two-step process. First, they were riding him really hard about his weight. They kept suggesting that he wasn't taking his training at the performance center seriously. So he cut down and got crazy lean via juice cleanse for awhile there. Then they started to crack down on him for trying to coach some of the newer guys. Apparently, Hero was offering advice and words of wisdom to some of the new hires - and he was reprimanded for trying to be a coach instead of just a talent. So yeah. Just curious as to whether his deal is different this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 I think it's part they wanted to have him in the fold because he was starting to get buzz on the indies and part have him be an experienced guy for the newbies to get ring time with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Rock Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 I believe he's there in an unofficial coaching or mentor capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 I always assume he just replaced Ty as the player-coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 They let Hero work other promotions? Or did I miss something and he's gone from NXT?WWE/NXT/205 had shows on AXXESS using all sorts of indie talent like Keith Lee, WALTER, and other folks from WWN and Progress. Hero challenged Keith Lee for the WWN title on Thursday, and also had a banger with WALTER on Saturday. They did let Hero do an ICW show a few months ago. His run has been so different from anyone else in NXT. They let Danny Burch and Lorcan do some indie stuff as well. Lorcan has never wrestled a match for an indie promotion. He made an untaped appearance at a single Beyond event. Hero, Noam Dar, Jack Gallagher, Cedric Alexander and Apollo Crews have all worked at least once for indie promotions since being signed to full time WWE deals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 They let Hero work other promotions? Or did I miss something and he's gone from NXT?WWE/NXT/205 had shows on AXXESS using all sorts of indie talent like Keith Lee, WALTER, and other folks from WWN and Progress. Hero challenged Keith Lee for the WWN title on Thursday, and also had a banger with WALTER on Saturday. They did let Hero do an ICW show a few months ago. His run has been so different from anyone else in NXT. They let Danny Burch and Lorcan do some indie stuff as well. Lorcan has never wrestled a match for an indie promotion. He made an untaped appearance at a single Beyond event. Hero, Noam Dar, Jack Gallagher, Cedric Alexander and Apollo Crews have all worked at least once for indie promotions since being signed to full time WWE deals And Danny Burch/Martin Stone is under some variation of the initial Gargano/Ciampa deal (and the planned Samoa Joe deal) where NXT has priority on his dates but otherwise he can just work wherever if it's not for TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPS Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 WWE/NXT/205 had shows on AXXESS using all sorts of indie talent like Keith Lee, WALTER, and other folks from WWN and Progress. Hero challenged Keith Lee for the WWN title on Thursday, and also had a banger with WALTER on Saturday.They did let Hero do an ICW show a few months ago. His run has been so different from anyone else in NXT. Are WWE gonna air those AXXESS tournaments on the network? I'd love to see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 No idea, but the quoting system on this board is a real pita. The post above mine has me quoting something I never said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 FAKE NEWS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Actually it's not that the quote system is broken. Since SPS quoted Eduardo, and he himself quoted you in his post, it's much more likely that he made a mistake formatting his post in order to avoid a quote pyramid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Yeah, everything works all right. No matter what anyone says, Asuka is over. …... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Guys, I never said the quote system was "broken" or "didn't work" - I just said it was a pain in the ass, which it is. Thankfully, a kind forum member clued me in a long time ago on the secret double-probation text-only mode. P.S. Asuka isn't over, Joe is past his prime and overrated, Kassius Ohno is nothing special, and Sami Callahan can't work or draw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richeyedwards Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 Dave's ever so touching tribute to Bruno: https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/986644764580724736 Wanker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 Actually, Dave is probably more touched about this than any "wanker" on the internet going "RIP RIP RIP" (make that a chant if you will) for a guy they never met and barely even seen when he was active, as Bruno was an actual friend of his. And Dave actually did report on Bruno earlier with this : https://mobile.twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/986631594122203136?p=p So yeah, I understand that this thread on all about "Metlz is a grouchy evil human being" but let's not be a Youtube comment section either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 If history is an indication, cue three pages of people wondering if he's on the spectrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahoos Leg Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 If history is an indication, cue three pages of people wondering if he's on the spectrum. With comments like that, there's good reason to wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 But seriously, people should fuck off with the Dave criticism on this one. He tweeted about his deep admiration for Bruno. But he's a reporter who's watching misinformation spread, and he spoke up about it in a respectful way. That's what he's supposed to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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