Cox Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Has it been pointed out that Dean Ambrose and Luke Harper have the same exact gear? White-turned-gray wifebeater and jeans is not a look that two people on the same roster should have. They need to have a "Loser Has To Get Real Gear" match on Raw sometime soon to get this sorted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tofu_chipmunk Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Has it been pointed out that Dean Ambrose and Luke Harper have the same exact gear? White-turned-gray wifebeater and jeans is not a look that two people on the same roster should have. They need to have a "Loser Has To Get Real Gear" match on Raw sometime soon to get this sorted out. Disagree. Jeans & tank combo is better than the trunks and t-shirt entrance (aka the 11-year old who just rolled out of bed) gear much of the roster has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 When was the last time Bray Wyatt even wrestled? I feel like he hasn't done anything in-ring on Raw since the Ambrose feud. Shouldn't he be killing guys left and right? Doesn't anybody booking this crap see a problem? You've got a guy whose biggest claim to fame is losing to John Cena and going 50/50 with washed up Chris Jericho going up against a guy who has been portrayed as an invincible legend for over 20 years. Shouldn't you be doing SOMETHING to at least create the illusion of a level playing field? It's like they have the end game all planned but have no clue how to get there so they just jump from start to finish without doing any of the necessary steps in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 It's like they have the end game all planned but have no clue how to get there so they just jump from start to finish without doing any of the necessary steps in between. You could say the same about the Sting/HHH and Reigns/Lesnar matches too. The only feud that has been developed adequately for Mania, by my estimation, is Cena/Rusev and Miz/Mizdow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I thought Sting was cutting a good promo before Steph came in and spat out the same stuff that we've been hearing forever. It was so funny how Sting basically told us how stupid this whole WCW angle is and then Stephanie comes out and spends 2 or 3 minutes talking about WCW. Exactly. Those "promos" or should we say "talking segments" (Lance Storm made a good point the other day when he said pretty much no one is cutting "promos" anymore) are awfully written. And Stephys delivery is not good, that's sub turkish TV-drama acting. The fact that she didn't even show the least bit of fear is ridiculous. Not to mention her horrible timing when trying to slap Sting. The oddest thing about this whole program is that WWE looks like the heel promotion. Fucking Snoop Dogg "I love him ! He's so fake !". My girlfriend. Curtis Axel's current gimmick is like his father doing the West Texas Rednecks. Yeah, he should get the big reaction on RAW after Mania. (alhough in hindsight, this week's segment looks like something they should have done at Mania) Sorry Reigns, but Rusev vs Cena is the actual main event of Mania. They need to resign Brock, have him retain and turn face (which is effectively what will happen anyway) and build to Brock vs Rusev at SummerSlam. But bring back Lana, come on. My god, Bray Wyatt… his promos are now about ten times more boring than his father's matches as IRS. Taker not even taking part in the angle *at all*, that shows as much effort they put in this crap. Ok, so Scott Hall went in as Razor Ramon only, but Nash goes in as Nash. Makes sense. So, we get Burger Kings commercials now ? The Battle Royal, multi-team tag team match and ladder IC matches are clusterfucks and I have zero interest in them. Poor Bryan. Heyman has single handedly interested me in watching this main event. Great promos after great promos. Well, of course, the main issue is that I still have zero interest in Reigns as a challenger, and he's cold as fuck. Way worst than Diesel was in 95 (which is ironic considering Nash is gonna close the HOF this year). That face-off was incrediby weak and they actually managed to make Lesnar kinda look like an idiot here. Well, no deal yet I guess. Fuck, that build... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I ended up cancelling my WWE Network subscription today, exactly one year to the day after I picked it up to watch Wrestlemania 30. I specifically waited to cancel on the heels of Raw in hopes that it might send up some sort of red flag in their metrics, but I'm not holding my breath. Either way, I don't feel like it's hyperbole to say that this has been a historically bad Wrestlemania build. When was the last time Bray Wyatt even wrestled? I feel like he hasn't done anything in-ring on Raw since the Ambrose feud. Shouldn't he be killing guys left and right? Doesn't anybody booking this crap see a problem? You've got a guy whose biggest claim to fame is losing to John Cena and going 50/50 with washed up Chris Jericho going up against a guy who has been portrayed as an invincible legend for over 20 years. Shouldn't you be doing SOMETHING to at least create the illusion of a level playing field? It's like they have the end game all planned but have no clue how to get there so they just jump from start to finish without doing any of the necessary steps in between. He did have a mostly clean victory over Daniel Bryan (in Bryan's first match on Raw since the injury!) in the go-home Raw before the Rumble, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I don't see how your one cancellation would remotely make a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I don't see how your one cancellation would remotely make a difference Like I said, I'm not holding my breath. I'm not going to watch Wrestlemania anyway and they've killed my interest in the product so thoroughly that I haven't really been actively watching for almost half a year now, so the cancellation itself is probably long overdue. But, other than an email that probably require a miracle or some form of blood sacrifice to be read by an actual human being, cancelling is the most direct line of feedback to WWE that I've got, so I'm taking it whether it's ultimately futile or not. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Mick Foley will induct Nash not Shawn Michaels as previously reported. Man that Nikki line is great. Maybe they are pissed at Lesnar for not re-signing. If it was an ad lib I doubt they keep that in. Hopefully so. Nikki Bella is a pretty damn good heel. Not to mention her horrible timing when trying to slap Sting. that was not good. Sting had to stand there like an idiot waiting to be slapped. She missed her cue badly there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Mick Foley will induct Nash not Shawn Michaels as previously reported. What?! That seems random as hell. What am I missing? I don't remember there ever being a great friendship between them, either on or off-screen (Foley's books, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Mick Foley will induct Nash not Shawn Michaels as previously reported. What?! That seems random as hell. What am I missing? I don't remember there ever being a great friendship between them, either on or off-screen (Foley's books, etc.). Did they really have a match together in TNA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yep, for The Legends championship, which was the often rebooted TV title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Man, that ending to Raw was completely deflating. Like two guys on Black Friday fighting over a PS4 on sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadic Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Man, that ending to Raw was completely deflating. Like two guys on Black Friday fighting over a PS4 on sale. Not according to South Park's "A Song of Fire and Ass"... Very, very weak way to end the show overall. That did more damage to Brock than anything else in my mind... Edited March 24, 2015 by sporadic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Mick Foley will induct Nash not Shawn Michaels as previously reported. What?! That seems random as hell. What am I missing? I don't remember there ever being a great friendship between them, either on or off-screen (Foley's books, etc.). I thought in Foley's book he mentioned mentoring Nash a bit and even road with him from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Sting in a scripted enviroment was pretty good on the mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 One weird thing that I haven't seen discussed anywhere: at the end of the ladder dudes' schmozz, the ladder landed awkwardly on Harper's ankle and he immediately started looking like he'd been shot. Rolling to the outside, clutching where he'd been smashed, and being checked on by refs while he laid prone in pain on the floor. Either that hurt like hell, or Harper is secretly the best seller in the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 It looked like the ladder hit him in the shin, which if you've ever been hit there you know is the most painful thing imaginable for like 5 solid minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Brock just announced on Sportcenter that he re-signed with WWE. Says he's officially done with MMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downend2005 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Very interesting. I'm assuming that he must have got a hell of a deal and/or some pretty big assurances about his future direction to publicly announce he's done with MMA completely too. As for mania, does this change the complexion of the main event at all? Brock re-signing does throw the result of the main more into question. This announcement has probably piqued my interest more in the main event than anything we've seen on television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Various outlets reporting that Lesnar has re-signed with the WWE. And, once again, the WWE has booked themselves into a corner that everyone else in the world saw a mile away. Had they actually had Bryan win the Rumble, like the fans wanted, they could have easily had Lesnar defeat him at Mania and I don't think even the mega-Bryan supporters would have been TOO bothered by it. I mean, we're talking about a guy who beat Taker, who manhandled Cena, who made Big Show and Jericho look like nobodies. The fans wanted Bryan to get his shot and, had he received it and lost clean in a heroic effort, I don't think the company would have *lost* much (especially when you consider the longterm plan seems to be to make sure Bryan isn't a main eventer anyway). But, no, they got nervous. They said "Reigns is the man and he's going to be the man NOW." Sunday night, we're going to see 1 of 2 two things - (1) Reigns is going to win the title and Lesnar, who might've just got one of the biggest money deals in company history, is no longer The Unstoppable Beast that they spent a year creating. Essentially, they're back to where they were after his first match back - the loss to Cena - where the WWE just paid a large sum of money for something they plan on instantly devalueing. Or (2) Lesnar retains and the Roman Reigns Era is put on hold indefinitely. This means the idea of Reigns being "The Next Cena" would no longer be guaranteed as all sorts of things could happen before Reigns got his redemption. I could easily see the same company brass who were 100% behind Reigns last week ("Fan response be damned! We need to take the belt off Brock!") change their tune now that the safe money is obviously to keep the belt with Lesnar ("We can't take the belt off Brock - listen to the fans!"). It has happened plenty of times where the WWE "cooled" on a guy believing they could always recharge him and strap "the rocket" back on later (as one could argue they'd do with Reigns) only for them to realize that its not that easy. Sunday's main event just got a ton more interesting - but only because its fun to watch the WWE try to book themselves out of yet another shitty situation they put themselves in. Oh, and to make things even shittier, this news story broke on ESPN. Not the Network. Not WWE.com. Not Monday Night RAW. Even in the Reality Era, the WWE failed to capitalize on the realest, most important storyline going into their biggest show of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Oh, and to make things even shittier, this news story broke on ESPN. Not the Network. Not WWE.com. Not Monday Night RAW. Even in the Reality Era, the WWE failed to capitalize on the realest, most important storyline going into their biggest show of the year. This was fantastic mainstream exposure for Mania. They spent 10 minutes on SportsCenter covering pro wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I listened to Bray do a radio interview promoting Mania in character. The hosts, who are big WWE fans, were good sports about keeping it kayfabe, but Bray brought absolutely nothing. If his promos are heavily scripted and they're trying to protect the character then they shouldn't hang him out to dry with promotional stuff. They were easy layup questions about the Undertaker match and he giggled and muttered through it for 3 minutes. I heard he was good in character on Jericho's pod, so maybe it was just jet lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 In my opinion this pretty much guarantees that Rock is showing for the main event. But will he help Reigns win the title or just be there to set up next year in Dallas. Rock vs Brock is definitely a match that fits in Jerry World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Oh, and to make things even shittier, this news story broke on ESPN. Not the Network. Not WWE.com. Not Monday Night RAW. Even in the Reality Era, the WWE failed to capitalize on the realest, most important storyline going into their biggest show of the year. This was fantastic mainstream exposure for Mania. They spent 10 minutes on SportsCenter covering pro wrestling.Yeah, no idea how that was a negative. It was fucking great for them. This ESPN partnership they have apparently forged could help them out. It wasn't "broken" by ESPN, it was Brock Lesnar on ESPN breaking a WWE story. That's what they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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