JerryvonKramer Posted July 29, 2015 Report Posted July 29, 2015 I agree with that in principle but maybe we need to come up with a new rule in the Game Station where we build a rule honoring deals up to a certain point. If you have a 6 month agreement, I don't think a new guy should have to alter 6 months of planning. However, maybe up to a month or two. At least a safety net or grace period. If I know I've got Piper coming in for 7 dates over the next month and the guy drops just as its about to happen, I don't want to rebook the entire month I had planned. If I just have 7 dates on him "somewhere down the line" it's a different prospect, and could see in that case renegotiating. Bock is such a case where the next month is key. I have things built to a point with him right in the middle of a storyline that will take a month minimum to blow off. It just so happened that the kid also dropped like the exact moment before Ted and Murdoch were due in. Coincidence I guess, but I hope you see the point. We also have a case where Japan dates are binding no matter what. Did Baba have to double check with Bill Watts's booker that it was still cool for DiBiase to work the tour? No, it's set in concrete because Bill Watts said it was cool and Ted had an agreement. Why's New York different? I'm not strong arming on this, I'm just saying something like a dude coming in to work MSG would be highly unlikely to be affected by bookers changing. Dusty is going to stay committed to the New York date no matter what. My compromise would be a one month grace rule where anything beyond that needs to be renegotiated. It's slightly unrealistic because we know guys like Vince Sr booked like a year in advance, but it's a compromise to accept that this is a game thing and not actually 1983.
Beast Posted July 29, 2015 Report Posted July 29, 2015 I don't think anyone will be such a huge douche as to ruin others' plans, but let's get this set in stone so as to ward off any problems down the line. One month grace rule should be automatic, with everything after that to players' discretion.
rainmakerrtv Posted July 29, 2015 Author Report Posted July 29, 2015 Just a heads up, my shows will be a couple of days late this week. Just the way the week has worked out. They should be up by the weekend. Thanks for your patience.
Boon Posted July 29, 2015 Report Posted July 29, 2015 While we waiting on a desicion on Central States can I give a few guys a run out in Alabama Wrestling Alliance next Thursday and Friday? I'd like if possible... George Wells Brian Adias Bob Orton Jr Tony Atlas
goc Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 Jumped the gun by a few hours on posting my TV but I really wanted to get it out. David Von Erich has finally arrived.
Beast Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 Just wanted to confirm that we decided against a full-blown every 6 months restructuring draft, correct? I know that I'm just making my own deals as the months go on to bring in new talent and swap out ones I don't need.
goc Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 I have only seen one person that still actually wants to do that restructuring draft. I am a definite no on that.
Grimmas Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 I'm the only one that would love major re-shaking every once in a while. Even if it's yearly. I think it would add a nice wrinkle. For exmaple there is some wrestlers that will stay in a territory forever, but others won't. I know a lot of deals will be made, but for some guys to be static in a single promotion seems wrong to me. I won't push for the six months, but I will bring this back up in June.
Wahoos Leg Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 what did we ever decide about injuries and retirements
Grimmas Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 On a side note, what is everybody's thoughts on gimmick matches and angles being used here from real life. War Games was invented in 87, so if somebody would do one before hand it would feel weird. Probably the first War Games should be in whatever promotion Dusty is in in the summer of 87. It's either weird stuff like that or are we doing complete anarchy? Can Parv run a Royal Rumble in January of 84 for example? Same thing with angles... is anybody thinking of recreating something or is everybody going to put enough spin on it to make it their own?
JerryvonKramer Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 Well I've brought in the Superstars and Challenge brands way early. So there's a slight precedent.
goc Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 On a side note, what is everybody's thoughts on gimmick matches and angles being used here from real life. War Games was invented in 87, so if somebody would do one before hand it would feel weird. Probably the first War Games should be in whatever promotion Dusty is in in the summer of 87. It's either weird stuff like that or are we doing complete anarchy? Can Parv run a Royal Rumble in January of 84 for example? Same thing with angles... is anybody thinking of recreating something or is everybody going to put enough spin on it to make it their own? This bothers me a lot less than treating all wrestlers as if they are only names on paper who would do anything and everything the booker told them to.
JHawk Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 Just to keep everyone up to speed, I'll announce which 16 guys are going into the draft sometime tonight. However, as it relates to Nick Bockwinkel: Yes, I'm keeping him. Yes, Parv can keep using Bockwinkel for the remainder of his original agreement as until I determine if I want to restructure TV (which is possible now that Wrestling at the Chase is in the territory) I'm currently only running Saturdays which does not interfere with the current WWF schedule.
goc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 It might be a few days before I post my 2 house shows, I'm feeling a little burnout right now so I'd rather just wait until I feel like writing something rather than force it.
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 I also would like periodic re-drafts. The interest, enthusiasm and discussion we had during the draft was off the charts -- leaps and bounds above what we have now that we're actually booking shows.
JHawk Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 So the way I understood things with taking over Central States, 16 wrestlers are being put into a draft (essentially one person for each remaining booker) while I got to keep those who weren't being released for the draft. With that in mind, the WWA/Central States promotion will be keeping: Harley Race (when not meeting his commitments as NWA World Champion) Nick Bockwinkel (Missouri Heavyweight Champion, when not meeting his commitments as WWF Champion) Bob Orton Jr. Gary Hart King Kong Bundy The Zambuie Express (Central States Tag Team Champions) Tony Atlas Don Kernodle Hercules Hernandez Keith Larsen This would make the following available to draft: Ivan Putski Dewey Robertson Brian Adias 'Bulldog' Bob Brown Buzz Tyler Armand Hussein Jerry Brown Roger Kirby George Wells Ron Ritchie Israel Matia JR Hogg Bubba Douglas Jimmy Doo Robert Reed Bruiser Costa There are a few I'm letting go that I could use, probably over some of the guys I'm keeping, but I already have some plans in place for just about everybody. Trade/loan deals are always on the table.
JHawk Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Oddly enough when dedhemingway dropped out, I was negotiating with him to use some of these guys on 8/20. Kept a few just to guarantee those plans. I am seriously debating changing a plan or two for that show based off of this as well
LowBlowPodcast Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 I also want to confirm the name Robert Reed. He was on the original Mid South list that I got, is there another Robert Reed out there that will be drafted? I am having a hard enough time finding out who mine is... EDIT: I have also somehow lost Chief Jay Strongbow in the move... does anyone have him on his roster or does he belong to Mid South? Sorry for the confusion.
goc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Jules Strongbow is in WWA and Jay Strongbow is in Mid-South. I don't know who Robert Reed is other than pure 100% jobber.
goodhelmet Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 There is only one Robert Reed that matters...
Beast Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Will, you can do another random draft order and post it whenever. 16 spots, and no JHawk
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